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Re: Important directive regarding screen reader releases: please use hashtags and others #AdminNotice

 

Hi,

It turns out I am also to blame for not editing the online archive on time.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 2:15 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Important directive regarding screen reader releases: please use hashtags and others #AdminNotice

 

Sorry Joseph, that was my fault!

 

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 3:39 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I was informed offlist that the previous post regarding NVDA release candidate announcement had hashtag issues. Thus I’d like to request that we follow the below directive:

 

Whenever you need to make an announcement regarding screen reader releases, unless you use BCC, please put screen reader specific hashtags when sending the announcement to this forum. This helps folks get to the right messages and helps in filtering messages by subject line.

 

These hashtags are:

 

·         JAWS for Windows: #JAWS

·         Window-Eyes: #WinEyes

·         NVDA: #NVDASR

·         Narrator: #Narrator

 

The hashtags should be used on the first message of each thread that announces new screen reader releases. Also, please don’t post every screen reader release announcements – announcements should be made if screen reader builds have something for Windows 10 users (NVDA 2016.4 RC1 is acceptable as it includes features for Edge support). In general, if the screen reader release includes notes on the following, it will be considered acceptable on this forum:

 

·         Support for current or upcoming stable builds of Windows 10.

·         Support for or enhancements for Microsoft Edge, reading toast notifications, File Explorer tweaks and other features.

·         Improvements for various Windows 10 apps such as Mail, Calendar, People, News, Store, Cortana and many others.

 

In case screen reader release notes say it supports specific features from Insider Preview builds, then it should be noted and sent to the Insiders subgroup. In case of screen reader scripts, this hashtag requirement will not be enforced a lot – for mine, I’ll put NVDASR hashtag.

 

This directive will be in effect from January 2017.

Cheers,

Joseph



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
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Win10 Forum policies letter, Monday, 5 December 2016 #cal-notice

win10@win10.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

Win10 Forum policies letter

When:
Monday, 5 December 2016

Description:

Dear Win10 forum subscriber:

Welcome to Win10, a central forum for screen reader users of Windows 10 from Microsoft. My name is Joseph Lee, the current head list representative for Win10 mailing list, and on behalf of other Win10 members, I would like to welcome you to the world of Windows 10 and to our forum.

As you take flight on Win10, please make sure to go over our forum guidelines, list addresses, procedures and membership contract.

List addresses:

  • Post a message: win10@win10.groups.io
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Our list website is at: https//win10.groups.io/g/win10

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As Windows 10 is a vast operating system with many feature sets and used for various purposes, our Win10 forum maintains a number of subgroups (hereby termed "focus groups"). Each focus group is geared towards topics related to a specific area of Windows 10, such as Windows Insider program and others, overseen by a focus group chair and open to members of Win10 list to join.

Below is a list of currently active focus groups:

  • Windows Insiders: A focus group for members of Windows Insider program, covering build announcements, screen reader accessibility and so on. Visit https://win10.groups.io/g/Insiders for more information.
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As a member of the Win10 forum and its subgroups, you agree to:

  1. Be professional, courteous, kind and respectful towards members.
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  3. Not post your Windows 10 product key, cracked software and licenses, Microsoft Account details and illegal software.
  4. Abide by guidelines set for the list and its subgroups.

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  • If you have to talk to a member privately, please send a direct message (offlist) to the member in question. You can do this via email or use reply to sender link found on the forum’s web interface or the link at the end of each message.
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Membership Contract: By joining the Win10 list, you certify that you agree to abide by list guidelines. In turn, the leadership team will abide by leadership guidelines and contract, which includes being respectful, courteous and professional to you and serve you and other Win10 forum members.

Once again, welcome to Win10, and we look forward to answering your queries and learning from your expertise.

Sincerely, Win10 Leadership Team


Re: cortana

David Moore
 

Hi Laz,

What marvin is saying, is that he can just say, for example, what is the weather today? and Cortana will give him the answer. If he says Hey Cortana first, she does not work for him. So, Marvin is not pressing anything or doing anything, but he just asks a question and Cortana respons. I am pretty sure that is what Marvin is saying.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Laz
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 12:12 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] cortana

 

Does anyone else understand this message? I for one always have to say

the "Hey Cortana" phrase first but I couldn't figure out if he was

making a statement or asking a question.

 

On 12/3/16, marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...> wrote:

> Hi. without hsaying hey Cortana, if I just say the command, then it works,

> like file explorer, internet explorer, outlook.

> So that's working.

> Marvin.

> Marvin Hunkin

> Blind Information Technology Student

>  <http://www.upskilled.edu.au> http://www.upskilled.edu.au

 

 

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Bluetooth devices, and accessories

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Email: laz@...

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Re: cortana

Laz
 

Does anyone else understand this message? I for one always have to say
the "Hey Cortana" phrase first but I couldn't figure out if he was
making a statement or asking a question.

On 12/3/16, marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...> wrote:
Hi. without hsaying hey Cortana, if I just say the command, then it works,
like file explorer, internet explorer, outlook.

So that's working.

Marvin.



Marvin Hunkin

Blind Information Technology Student

<http://www.upskilled.edu.au> http://www.upskilled.edu.au



--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Players, Accessible phones,
Bluetooth devices, and accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@...
Phone: 727-498-0121
Skype: lazmesa
Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr


Re: windows 10 chrashes

 

To be honest I agree with the poster.
The diagnostics I have given on skype vs what I can see with the naked eye are vastly different.
If its an error I search the net for it.
If its malware I tell them what to run to fix it.
If its haardware or something in startup I go via skype and fix it that way.
If I need to remote I try that way.
Usually depending how critical it is I either tell them that a good reformat will always fix it or I come over and fix it.
It can be bad software or malware, but mostly it is user leaving the system at default, and having misconfigured things leading to malware, ransomware, etc.
Leading to research onn the net, leading to installing 100 security programms and going through all sorts of things to get things going on the system going to more misconfiguration till it stops entirely.
I had to one day go through, and basically remove every program on the system and put it back.
In one case thhe system was an overheating smoking wreck, I was able to run my cooling fan desk ovver it but it still boiled.
I finally removed the battery, and was able to coppy everything to another drive, as I completed it, the entire thing melted into slag!
Sometimes I have had to bite the bullet, and clear malware then spend time fixing the dammage it caused.
In another case, it was just user error.
An uncle of mine has a small business and I service the system, most of the time its just updating the system, scanning and killing malware, and fixing user issues.
It did once end up with me having to shell out a little cash for him, as he was trying to get a program to record his skype calls.
When I got the system it was loaded with ransomware and malware and other junk.
I asked him what he was trying to do and as I had a suitte of stuuff with discounts in it I was able to buy a software to solve the origional issue.

On 5/12/2016 6:21 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
Marvin,

I'm about to say something that will probably result in my being socially ostracized, if not banned, from this forum: Sometimes there is just no substitute for sight.

A crash as thorny and convoluted as this one sounds is going to require that someone can literally see it unfold. It is highly unlikely to be solved entirely after the fact using things like logs, etc., and could possibly be secondary to something you've done or installed on your machine [note: possibly]. There are almost certain to be warning dialogs popping up, etc., that are occurring after JAWS (in this case) is going into "I'm not speaking anymore" mode. That kind of information will be vital and you need to engage and assistant in order to get it. There is nothing wrong with doing so.

You can certainly file this as feedback, but without something that would allow replication of the issue there's virtually nothing any developer can do with an "it's crashing over and over again" and nothing else style report. If you can figure out a way to consistently induce the crash, using the same steps (preferably as few as possible but even if it takes a lot of steps, if you know what those are, that's key), that's the way to file a bug report or feedback which can be acted upon. This is a principle that all users need to know, and an IT student must embrace.
--
*Brian*

*Well when events change, I change my mind. What do you do?*

* ~ Paul Samuelson , winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Economics*


Re: Important directive regarding screen reader releases: please use hashtags and others #AdminNotice

Quentin Christensen
 

Sorry Joseph, that was my fault!

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 3:39 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I was informed offlist that the previous post regarding NVDA release candidate announcement had hashtag issues. Thus I’d like to request that we follow the below directive:

 

Whenever you need to make an announcement regarding screen reader releases, unless you use BCC, please put screen reader specific hashtags when sending the announcement to this forum. This helps folks get to the right messages and helps in filtering messages by subject line.

 

These hashtags are:

 

·         JAWS for Windows: #JAWS

·         Window-Eyes: #WinEyes

·         NVDA: #NVDASR

·         Narrator: #Narrator

 

The hashtags should be used on the first message of each thread that announces new screen reader releases. Also, please don’t post every screen reader release announcements – announcements should be made if screen reader builds have something for Windows 10 users (NVDA 2016.4 RC1 is acceptable as it includes features for Edge support). In general, if the screen reader release includes notes on the following, it will be considered acceptable on this forum:

 

·         Support for current or upcoming stable builds of Windows 10.

·         Support for or enhancements for Microsoft Edge, reading toast notifications, File Explorer tweaks and other features.

·         Improvements for various Windows 10 apps such as Mail, Calendar, People, News, Store, Cortana and many others.

 

In case screen reader release notes say it supports specific features from Insider Preview builds, then it should be noted and sent to the Insiders subgroup. In case of screen reader scripts, this hashtag requirement will not be enforced a lot – for mine, I’ll put NVDASR hashtag.

 

This directive will be in effect from January 2017.

Cheers,

Joseph




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Avoiding the dreaded 'open parent document button' when downloading PDFs on the internet?

Cher
 

Scratch what I just said… Although IE started reading the pdf last time I tried the link, when I went back to it just now, the open parent document button still had focus! I surely must be losing it!

 

Cher

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 1:41 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Avoiding the dreaded 'open parent document button' when downloading PDFs on the internet?

 

The link is called

Consumer Report Cellphone Service Award

And it is #23 in the links list. Mine does say graphic before the name, but JAWS did not seem to see the graphic. I still had it open in IE, so used Firefox this time, and interestingly enough, FF opened it without the dreaded open parent doc button. That inspired me to close IE and try again, and this time IE opened it fine- crazy- so something erratic is going on. Hmmmm! Has this happened to others? I’ve also had IE and FF both recently do this on a download link for a Word doc. Running Win10 Anniversary.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 12:54 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Avoiding the dreaded 'open parent document button' when downloading PDFs on the internet?

 

Cher,

          Are you logged in when visiting the Plans page to which you furnished the link?  When I go there I cannot find anything that says either "download" or "award" on that page.
--
Brian

Well when events change, I change my mind. What do you do?

    ~ Paul Samuelson, winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Economics

 


Re: Avoiding the dreaded 'open parent document button' when downloading PDFs on the internet?

Philip Hall <p.hall.eml1@...>
 

Hi.

I get that dreaded message whenever I use I E to download a PDF document.

Interestingly enough, only with Jaws. If I switch to NVDA, WindowEyes, or System Access, I can read the document without having to re-download the document.

 

I have no such issues with Firefox however, so now, whenever I find myself in the situation where I must download PDF documents from a website on a regular basis, I have a shortcut on my desktop to open that website in Firefox in the first place.

 

Phil

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 1:41 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Avoiding the dreaded 'open parent document button' when downloading PDFs on the internet?

 

The link is called

Consumer Report Cellphone Service Award

And it is #23 in the links list. Mine does say graphic before the name, but JAWS did not seem to see the graphic. I still had it open in IE, so used Firefox this time, and interestingly enough, FF opened it without the dreaded open parent doc button. That inspired me to close IE and try again, and this time IE opened it fine- crazy- so something erratic is going on. Hmmmm! Has this happened to others? I’ve also had IE and FF both recently do this on a download link for a Word doc. Running Win10 Anniversary.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 12:54 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Avoiding the dreaded 'open parent document button' when downloading PDFs on the internet?

 

Cher,

          Are you logged in when visiting the Plans page to which you furnished the link?  When I go there I cannot find anything that says either "download" or "award" on that page.
--
Brian

Well when events change, I change my mind. What do you do?

    ~ Paul Samuelson, winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Economics

 


Re: Security Software

Cher
 

When you say 'if it finds something, you can choose the item it puts in the notifications area', is this a dialog which comes up at that time, or is there a setting somewhere that needs to be configured? Thanks.

Cher

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:08 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Security Software

Usually it just does its thing in the background. However, if it finds
something, you can choose the item it puts in the notifications area and
then you tab to the clean pc button and activate it to remove the
suspect item. I had to do this this morning. Don't know where it came
from, but I suspect a website I was just looking at when the alert came
up. It said it was a hack called something like win32 keygen and it was
successfully removed without doing any harm to my system. I'll just stay
away from that website in future.

Roger









On 11/24/2016 12:14 PM, Alan Robbins wrote:
Actually, does one need to do anything with defender? I always thought it simply worked automatically in the background.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 1:11 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Security Software

I've had good luck with just using Windows Defender. It is very easy to
use with nvda.

Roger









On 11/24/2016 9:53 AM, Lee Jones wrote:
Dear List, is there any accessible security software for windows 10? I have never had any that worked. What do people use to keep their pc’s free of nasties.

Many Thanks, Lee


.







Re: Avoiding the dreaded 'open parent document button' when downloading PDFs on the internet?

Cher
 

The link is called

Consumer Report Cellphone Service Award

And it is #23 in the links list. Mine does say graphic before the name, but JAWS did not seem to see the graphic. I still had it open in IE, so used Firefox this time, and interestingly enough, FF opened it without the dreaded open parent doc button. That inspired me to close IE and try again, and this time IE opened it fine- crazy- so something erratic is going on. Hmmmm! Has this happened to others? I’ve also had IE and FF both recently do this on a download link for a Word doc. Running Win10 Anniversary.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 12:54 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Avoiding the dreaded 'open parent document button' when downloading PDFs on the internet?

 

Cher,

          Are you logged in when visiting the Plans page to which you furnished the link?  When I go there I cannot find anything that says either "download" or "award" on that page.
--
Brian

Well when events change, I change my mind. What do you do?

    ~ Paul Samuelson, winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Economics

 


Re: whats new tutorial for nvda 2016.4:

anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...>
 

Hi keny

 

If you can send me your skype ID, I will make it.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: 03 December 2016 22:04
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] whats new tutorial for nvda 2016.4:

 

Hi nvda users and windows 10 users I am planning on doing a live version of the whats new tutorial for nvda 2016.4. I am planning doing this on a Thursday or Friday  around 1:00 pm. If you can make it please let me know. I am planning on doing it via skype.

Keny Peyatt jr.

 


Re: Avoiding the dreaded 'open parent document button' when downloading PDFs on the internet?

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Cher,

          Are you logged in when visiting the Plans page to which you furnished the link?  When I go there I cannot find anything that says either "download" or "award" on that page.
--
Brian

Well when events change, I change my mind. What do you do?

    ~ Paul Samuelson, winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Economics



Avoiding the dreaded 'open parent document button' when downloading PDFs on the internet?

Cher
 

I’ve getting the dreaded ‘open parent document button’ recently when downloading .pdf docs on the internet. Using IE11 and current JAWS. For example, go to

 

https://www.consumercellular.com/Info/Plans

 

and take the download link

 

Consumer Report Cellphone Service Award

 

I did a work-around by saving and then opening in Adobe DC; but is there a way to avoid this hazard?

 

As always, thanks for the great input!

Cher


Re: windows 10 chrashes

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Marvin,

         I'm about to say something that will probably result in my being socially ostracized, if not banned, from this forum:  Sometimes there is just no substitute for sight.

         A crash as thorny and convoluted as this one sounds is going to require that someone can literally see it unfold.  It is highly unlikely to be solved entirely after the fact using things like logs, etc., and could possibly be secondary to something you've done or installed on your machine [note:  possibly].  There are almost certain to be warning dialogs popping up, etc., that are occurring after JAWS (in this case) is going into "I'm not speaking anymore" mode.  That kind of information will be vital and you need to engage and assistant in order to get it.  There is nothing wrong with doing so.

         You can certainly file this as feedback, but without something that would allow replication of the issue there's virtually nothing any developer can do with an "it's crashing over and over again" and nothing else style report.  If you can figure out a way to consistently induce the crash, using the same steps (preferably as few as possible but even if it takes a lot of steps, if you know what those are, that's key), that's the way to file a bug report or feedback which can be acted upon.  This is a principle that all users need to know, and an IT student must embrace.
--
Brian

Well when events change, I change my mind. What do you do?

    ~ Paul Samuelson, winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Economics



windows 10 chrashes

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi, noticed lately, a blind programming student learning about programming and using visual studio community 2015, jaws gets stuck, visual studio gets stuck, then windows 10 doing background or downloading in the background, and cannot get to the desktop, only way, is to turn off the pc, and then reboot again. How to stop this from happening, then when I launch visual studio 2015, have to click on recover files, very annoying, this has happened several times , last week. Should I file this as feedback.

And also the reason, why not installing insider builds, as this is my only production machine, unless there’s a podcast, how to install a vm, then run windows.

Marvin.

 

Marvin Hunkin

Blind Information Technology Student

http://www.upskilled.edu.au

 


Re: cannot add gmail account to outlook 2010

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

See the attachment for details on setting up your Google Account, and Gmail under it, to allow IMAP e-mail access by older e-mail clients.

I wrote this up a while ago, and with a sighted audience in mind (hence the use of "click") but it should directly translate to any screen reader user that knows how to use Windows and a web browser.
--
Brian

Well when events change, I change my mind. What do you do?

    ~ Paul Samuelson, winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Economics



Re: cannot add gmail account to outlook 2010

Ann Byrne
 

GMail needs tweaks, not Outlook. You need to tell GMail to forward mail, either pop or imap. the big thing, though, is there is a security setting you have to change. I don't remember where, but the page says something like "allow GMail to work with unsafe mail programs". that isn't the wording at all, but that's what it means. there is a slider on the page and both JAWS and NVDA read it as though it were a checkbox. and you can't check it. Someone has to do it with the mouse. Until that is done, you get a message in Outlook saying that the password is incorrect. googling it might/almost probably would give you clearer information.

It's totally possible, though.

Good luck.

Ann

At 09:52 PM 12/3/2016, you wrote:
Hi. did a yesterday, and when I try to add my mums gmail account, it then saks for me to rety or manually, and then fails. Any ideas why. Do I need to totually uinstall, then reinstall. Help!
Marvin.repair

Marvin Hunkin
Blind Information Technology Student
<http://www.upskilled.edu.au>http://www.upskilled.edu.au


Re: office 2010 still shows up even with 365 installed?

adam morris
 

Hi George,

When I ran the setup file for office 365 after removing office 2010, all the programs were installed, I didn't get any choices to install or not.




On 04-Dec-16 14:47, george b wrote:

You need to install all the programs on your device.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of adam morris
Sent: December 3, 2016 18:51
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] office 2010 still shows up even with 365 installed?

 

Hi all,

 

I had office 2010 on my system.

I removed it through add remove programs.

Installed office 365.

If I open a specific file it opens word or excel for office 365/2016.

If I press the windows key and type

w

the first option that comes up is word 2010.

Nothing happens if you press enter.

Any idea how I can get word, excel or any of the other products to come up in the search box instead of the old and removed 2010?

 

 



-- 
 
 
Adam Morris
Jaws certified 2016
email:
adam@...
 
 
               

-- 


Adam Morris
Jaws certified 2016
email:
adam@...


		


cortana

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. without hsaying hey Cortana, if I just say the command, then it works, like file explorer, internet explorer, outlook.

So that’s working.

Marvin.

 

Marvin Hunkin

Blind Information Technology Student

http://www.upskilled.edu.au

 


cannot add gmail account to outlook 2010

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. did a  yesterday, and when I try to add my mums gmail account, it then saks for me to rety or manually, and then fails. Any ideas why. Do I need to totually uinstall, then reinstall. Help!

Marvin.repair

 

Marvin Hunkin

Blind Information Technology Student

http://www.upskilled.edu.au