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Re: Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #wikiproposal

 

Hi,

The web interface? You’d go to groups.io, then select “log in” or something similar. Enter your email address, and if you haven’t set up your password, you’ll be invited to set one up.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:57 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

So, how does one log in to this site?

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:16 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi everyone,

 

For those who are new to this forum and subgroups: we actually do have a wiki:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki

 

Although this wiki is minimalist compared to wikis on other forums, I believe it is time to change that. The proposals for new pages are:

 

  • Brian’s tutorials: I believe that it would be helpful to place Brian’s tutorial links under one roof (a wiki page with links to his tutorials).
  • Comparison between stable builds: for some time, I thought about a wiki page that would present feature differences between stable builds, namely new settings, limitations and so on. Any thoughts on this?

 

Note that in order to edit wiki pages, you need to have ability to access the web interface. For best presentation results, I use Markdown to format wiki pages.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Gary Ray
 

So, are all of these files for Win 10 AFTER the Anniversary update?

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:52 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Ed, and all others asking about access to these lists.  I will repost the entire collection following this little tutorial of sorts that won't be much of a tutorial.  Each and every one of these sets of instructions is presented as a link.  Activating that link will trigger the corresponding file to download to your computer.  I cannot say whether that means it will go to your Downloads folder or elsewhere because I can't know who has the "Always ask me where to save a file" setting turned on in their favorite web browser.

After the file is downloaded it's an MS-Word file like any other that you can simply select, activate the selected file, and have it open in MS-Word.  If you do not have Microsoft Office the Word format files will also open in Open Office or Libre Office (and several other alternative office suites) if this is what you have on your computer.

That being said, here's the list of links again just so you have them in this message and don't have to dig up the two old ones to find the links:

--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor

 


Article (PC Mag): Microsoft admits it was too aggressiveabout Windows 10

 

Hi all,

 

Sometimes, it is helpful to look at the downsides of Windows 10 ecosystem, and the article (linked below) captures this well. As a Windows Insider, I myself agree that overall tactic from Microsoft when it came to upgrade notifications was aggressive at times (you may remember a discussion several months ago regarding GWX and others).

 

Article link:

Microsoft admits it was too aggressive about Windows 10 (PC Mag):

http://www.pcmag.com/news/350584/microsoft-admits-it-was-too-aggressive-about-windows-10

 

The reason for posting this is to demonstrate that, like anything else, Windows 10 has both positive and negative things to talk about, and also for a chance for us to think about what we are facing.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #wikiproposal

Gary Ray
 

So, how does one log in to this site?

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:16 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi everyone,

 

For those who are new to this forum and subgroups: we actually do have a wiki:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki

 

Although this wiki is minimalist compared to wikis on other forums, I believe it is time to change that. The proposals for new pages are:

 

  • Brian’s tutorials: I believe that it would be helpful to place Brian’s tutorial links under one roof (a wiki page with links to his tutorials).
  • Comparison between stable builds: for some time, I thought about a wiki page that would present feature differences between stable builds, namely new settings, limitations and so on. Any thoughts on this?

 

Note that in order to edit wiki pages, you need to have ability to access the web interface. For best presentation results, I use Markdown to format wiki pages.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #wikiproposal

 

Hi everyone,

 

For those who are new to this forum and subgroups: we actually do have a wiki:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki

 

Although this wiki is minimalist compared to wikis on other forums, I believe it is time to change that. The proposals for new pages are:

 

  • Brian’s tutorials: I believe that it would be helpful to place Brian’s tutorial links under one roof (a wiki page with links to his tutorials).
  • Comparison between stable builds: for some time, I thought about a wiki page that would present feature differences between stable builds, namely new settings, limitations and so on. Any thoughts on this?

 

Note that in order to edit wiki pages, you need to have ability to access the web interface. For best presentation results, I use Markdown to format wiki pages.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Ed, and all others asking about access to these lists.  I will repost the entire collection following this little tutorial of sorts that won't be much of a tutorial.  Each and every one of these sets of instructions is presented as a link.  Activating that link will trigger the corresponding file to download to your computer.  I cannot say whether that means it will go to your Downloads folder or elsewhere because I can't know who has the "Always ask me where to save a file" setting turned on in their favorite web browser.

After the file is downloaded it's an MS-Word file like any other that you can simply select, activate the selected file, and have it open in MS-Word.  If you do not have Microsoft Office the Word format files will also open in Open Office or Libre Office (and several other alternative office suites) if this is what you have on your computer.

That being said, here's the list of links again just so you have them in this message and don't have to dig up the two old ones to find the links:

--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor



Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Hi,

Brian sent these as links. Eventually I’ll transfer them over to our forum wiki (giving Brian the credit he deserves).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:25 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Hi Brian,

Could you please explain to me as I am and old geezer how to get to these instructions that you and Joseph are talking about.  I think it would be really good if you could give step by step how to get to these instructions on how to do  different things that you have put together.

The reason I am suggestion this is I am sure there are a lot of us on this list that our not computer techie’s that would appreciate this information.

Mr. Ed

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:16 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Joseph,

         I'd also respectfully ask that several of the things indirectly related to the Win10 ecosystem, e.g., using ribbons under Windows, the items related to using MS-Office, be included as well.  I'm not sure how focused you're thinking of "directly."  These things span Windows ecosystems, and some even deal with older versions of Office, but things really haven't changed much in those arenas and questions arise on these repeatedly.
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor

 


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Fred Adams
 

Yes, I am one of those guys that need the extra help. Thanks much and Merry Christmas to all.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:25 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Hi Brian,

Could you please explain to me as I am and old geezer how to get to these instructions that you and Joseph are talking about. I think it would be really good if you could give step by step how to get to these instructions on how to do different things that you have put together.

The reason I am suggestion this is I am sure there are a lot of us on this list that our not computer techie’s that would appreciate this information.

Mr. Ed



From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:16 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"



Joseph,

I'd also respectfully ask that several of the things indirectly related to the Win10 ecosystem, e.g., using ribbons under Windows, the items related to using MS-Office, be included as well. I'm not sure how focused you're thinking of "directly." These things span Windows ecosystems, and some even deal with older versions of Office, but things really haven't changed much in those arenas and questions arise on these repeatedly.
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Mr. Ed
 

Hi Brian,

Could you please explain to me as I am and old geezer how to get to these instructions that you and Joseph are talking about.  I think it would be really good if you could give step by step how to get to these instructions on how to do  different things that you have put together.

The reason I am suggestion this is I am sure there are a lot of us on this list that our not computer techie’s that would appreciate this information.

Mr. Ed

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:16 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Joseph,

         I'd also respectfully ask that several of the things indirectly related to the Win10 ecosystem, e.g., using ribbons under Windows, the items related to using MS-Office, be included as well.  I'm not sure how focused you're thinking of "directly."  These things span Windows ecosystems, and some even deal with older versions of Office, but things really haven't changed much in those arenas and questions arise on these repeatedly.
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor

 


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Joseph,

         I'd also respectfully ask that several of the things indirectly related to the Win10 ecosystem, e.g., using ribbons under Windows, the items related to using MS-Office, be included as well.  I'm not sure how focused you're thinking of "directly."  These things span Windows ecosystems, and some even deal with older versions of Office, but things really haven't changed much in those arenas and questions arise on these repeatedly.
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor



Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Hi,

Of these, things that are directly related to Windows 10 ecosystem will be linked for the purposes of the forum wiki.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 9:21 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Also, since this is still fresh, I located six more bits that need to be added to the hits list:

--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor

 


locked Re: windows 10 internet query

Allan WKF
 

Hi Marvin,

What is this have to do to Windows 10?

This thread and another thread "is there a tool to delete messages from
gmail" totally non-sense.

--

Allan WKF

----- Original Message -----
From: "marvin hunkin" <startrekcafe@gmail.com>
To: <win10@win10.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 14:28
Subject: [win10] windows 10 internet query


Hi, with a new provider my republic, http://www.myrepublic.com.au or
http://www.myrepublic.net/au, for some odd reason, this is the only site I
cannot access, everytime try to access http:www.groups.io, says the page
could not be loaded in internet explorer, when I do fix connection, says the
dns server is not available.and then firefox says cannot find the server.
Any one run into this, did mess around with the dns server, and then lost my
connection, able to get it back, so is there a way to add a second or
multiple dns servers, windows 10, any network techs on here. And there text
chat, still waiting for some one to do a live chat, and waiting two or three
hours, and don't get a e-mail back, three days later, did try contact via
phone, but for some reason, it timed out, after waiting a good hour or two,
and then waiting for an important call, phone is working fantastic, home
phone and speed is a lot faster. Any one got any ideas, suggestions, work
arounds.

Thanks.


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Also, since this is still fresh, I located six more bits that need to be added to the hits list:

--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor



Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Hi,

 

I propose creating a wiki page that links to your files (this reminds me to update the forum wiki and possibly add a page that describes feature differences between builds).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:55 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

What follows was also just posted on the NVDA group, but since so much of it is directly Windows 10 focused and there's not complete overlap in membership I thought I'd also offer it here, too.

Since, for valid reasons, the same questions come up repeatedly I have taken over time to creating sets of step-by-step instructions in MS-Word (2007 and later, they're .docx files) format.  I am also repeatedly doing copy and paste on the content of these instructions, which I'll admit is getting old, because most groups do not allow attachments.  Since I've got the material already typed, and Google Drive, and the ability to create links to each file that will directly download them for whoever wants to use or share any one or more of them, that's what I'm doing here.  I'll add on to this topic over time, probably repeating the previous "Greatest Hits" list with new material integrated into it.  So, in no particular order, here goes:

--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor

 


locked Re: windows 10 internet query

 

Hi,

Hmmm, this is more of a support email for support@groups.io (thread closing tonight). Try contacting that address to see what’s up.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin hunkin
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:29 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] windows 10 internet query

 

Hi, with a new provider my republic, http://www.myrepublic.com.au or http://www.myrepublic.net/au, for some odd reason, this is the only site I cannot access, everytime try to access http:www.groups.io, says the page could not be loaded in internet explorer, when I do fix connection, says the dns server is not available.and then firefox says cannot find the server. Any one run into this, did mess around with the dns server, and then lost my connection, able to get it back, so is there a way to add a second or multiple dns servers, windows 10, any network techs on here. And there text chat, still waiting for some one to do a live chat, and waiting two or three hours, and don’t get a e-mail back, three days later, did try contact via phone, but for some reason, it timed out, after waiting a good hour or two, and then waiting for an important call, phone is working fantastic, home phone and speed is a lot faster. Any one got any ideas, suggestions, work arounds.

Thanks.

 


locked windows 10 internet query

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi, with a new provider my republic, http://www.myrepublic.com.au or http://www.myrepublic.net/au, for some odd reason, this is the only site I cannot access, everytime try to access http:www.groups.io, says the page could not be loaded in internet explorer, when I do fix connection, says the dns server is not available.and then firefox says cannot find the server. Any one run into this, did mess around with the dns server, and then lost my connection, able to get it back, so is there a way to add a second or multiple dns servers, windows 10, any network techs on here. And there text chat, still waiting for some one to do a live chat, and waiting two or three hours, and don’t get a e-mail back, three days later, did try contact via phone, but for some reason, it timed out, after waiting a good hour or two, and then waiting for an important call, phone is working fantastic, home phone and speed is a lot faster. Any one got any ideas, suggestions, work arounds.

Thanks.

 


Re: VersaPoint DUO Embosser Device Driver

Iaen Cordell
 

Interesting Brian, I work in the communications field and like you I have never found a good serial or parallel USB converter.

Even the guys in the field who work on the cell sites gave up the chance for newer laptops as they did not support serial and or printer ports.

Cheers

IC

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 2:02 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] VersaPoint DUO Embosser Device Driver

 

Steve,

          I'm going to take a "wait and see" on this.  The device is, and has always been, connected to the Windows machines that it's been connected to via a parallel port.  That's the reason that one was explicitly included on this custom-built box.  There was something that was the driver for it.

          I have never had any luck with any parallel to USB adapter in the past.  I am fairly certain that I don't have any other cabling options as this device has been a fixture in the house, and where it is, for quite a while now.  I will ask, though, whether she happens to have alternate cables stashed somewhere.

          I'll keep you all posted as events progress (or don't progress).  This is likely on hold until after the first of the year.
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor

 


Re: VersaPoint DUO Embosser Device Driver

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Steve,

          I'm going to take a "wait and see" on this.  The device is, and has always been, connected to the Windows machines that it's been connected to via a parallel port.  That's the reason that one was explicitly included on this custom-built box.  There was something that was the driver for it.

          I have never had any luck with any parallel to USB adapter in the past.  I am fairly certain that I don't have any other cabling options as this device has been a fixture in the house, and where it is, for quite a while now.  I will ask, though, whether she happens to have alternate cables stashed somewhere.

          I'll keep you all posted as events progress (or don't progress).  This is likely on hold until after the first of the year.
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor



Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

What follows was also just posted on the NVDA group, but since so much of it is directly Windows 10 focused and there's not complete overlap in membership I thought I'd also offer it here, too.

Since, for valid reasons, the same questions come up repeatedly I have taken over time to creating sets of step-by-step instructions in MS-Word (2007 and later, they're .docx files) format.  I am also repeatedly doing copy and paste on the content of these instructions, which I'll admit is getting old, because most groups do not allow attachments.  Since I've got the material already typed, and Google Drive, and the ability to create links to each file that will directly download them for whoever wants to use or share any one or more of them, that's what I'm doing here.  I'll add on to this topic over time, probably repeating the previous "Greatest Hits" list with new material integrated into it.  So, in no particular order, here goes:

--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor



Re: VersaPoint DUO Embosser Device Driver

Steve Dresser
 


Hi Brian,
 
I don't think the driver is the issue since Windows talks to braille embossers through the generic text-only driver.  That said, you will need a piece of hardware to convert a parallel port to USB, and that device will probably have its own driver.  I haven't looked for such a device in a long time, so I don't know if they're still available.  I wonder, though, if the Duo can also talk to a serial port (and I think it can).  You may find it easier to come up with a serial to USB converter, and I'm pretty sure those are still available.  Just make sure you get one with the Prolific USB chip set.  In other words, don't go for the cheap knock-offs as they often behave unpredictably.  Again, the hardware will have its own driver, or it may be part of Windows, but you'll still need the Generic Text-only driver to talk to the embosser.  Let me know if you have any other questions, and I'll answer if I can.
 
Steve
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: December 22, 2016 15:07
Subject: [win10] VersaPoint DUO Embosser Device Driver

Hello All,

         What follows is not directly Windows 10 related and I have already asked on the BlindLife group, but gotten no response, and was hoping that someone here who doesn't overlap the membership there might know.  It also could be useful information for others since it seems to be hard-to-find to begin with.

         A good friend of mine just got a brand new computer that was intentionally loaded with Windows 7 Pro.  She also has a VersaPoint DUO embosser that uses a parallel port connection and had a parallel port installed on the machine she had built for her.

         I thought for certain that I'd be able to do my usual web search and find a device driver to install for the embosser.  Since it's a parallel port device the usual USB-type plug-n-play search for a driver does not work.

         Mind you, she will be acquiring an updated copy of Duxbury in short order, which will probably include a device driver for the VersaPoint DUO since I see it's definitely still a supported device by many Braille programs even though it's not currently being made anymore.  That still doesn't help, though, when you've got things like Kurzweil 1000 and other programs that could emboss on her old computer but can't on the new one, at least not at the moment, because the VersaPoint is not a recognized printer (and I'd presume that's what it would be considered, just another printer, but one that has a very specific driver for it).

          If there is a stand-alone device driver installer for the VersaPoint under Windows 7, or any version of Windows for that matter, would someone let me know where that might be located?  I know that she can do the installation herself, but not if there's nothing to install.

--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor