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Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Hi,

Yes, let’s continue this discussion on the NVDA list. I’ll formally close this thread (at least the current version) once the wiki has been updated (folks are more than welcome to discuss this in other incarnations).

Cheers,

Joseph P.S. Wish there was an easy way to split threads…

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 7:48 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Joseph,

              I definitely get the SHIFT+ prefix on any of the directional actions, but the issue here is that you get zip, zilch, nada in auditory information that you've landed in the Protected View Grouping the first time you land in it.  If you can't see that's where you are, in the literal sense of vision, you have absolutely no idea you've even landed there.  You've entered "the silent zone."

              I have replicated this behavior with several different downloads.  We should probably continue this, if necessary, on the NVDA group where I copied over my last bit since this, if it's a problem, isn't a Windows 10 problem (or most likely isn't).
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor

 


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Joseph,

              I definitely get the SHIFT+ prefix on any of the directional actions, but the issue here is that you get zip, zilch, nada in auditory information that you've landed in the Protected View Grouping the first time you land in it.  If you can't see that's where you are, in the literal sense of vision, you have absolutely no idea you've even landed there.  You've entered "the silent zone."

              I have replicated this behavior with several different downloads.  We should probably continue this, if necessary, on the NVDA group where I copied over my last bit since this, if it's a problem, isn't a Windows 10 problem (or most likely isn't).
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor



Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Hi,

Shift+F6 should also work to move backwards through toolbars.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 7:39 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Joseph,

           Thanks, but a couple of notes.

            My first F6 press takes me from the document body to the Navigation Pane (which, in my case, is something I always have showing, so this might be related to that, and Navigation Pane is announced) and a second F6 key press moves me to the protected view area.  However, the "Protected View Grouping" announcement never occurs when I initially land in it and when I do that's on the, "This file originated . . .," link.  The only way I get the "Protected View Grouping" announcement to occur is if I move around within it when I land in it with the F6 key, which if you can't see that you've done that you'd have no idea what to try, or if I keep F6-pressing until I land in it the second time and then I get the announcement immediately upon re-entry to the Protected View Grouping.
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor

 


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Joseph,

           Thanks, but a couple of notes.

            My first F6 press takes me from the document body to the Navigation Pane (which, in my case, is something I always have showing, so this might be related to that, and Navigation Pane is announced) and a second F6 key press moves me to the protected view area.  However, the "Protected View Grouping" announcement never occurs when I initially land in it and when I do that's on the, "This file originated . . .," link.  The only way I get the "Protected View Grouping" announcement to occur is if I move around within it when I land in it with the F6 key, which if you can't see that you've done that you'd have no idea what to try, or if I keep F6-pressing until I land in it the second time and then I get the announcement immediately upon re-entry to the Protected View Grouping.
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor



Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Hi,

If you encounter this situation, press F6 to move to protected view pane and there you’ll find the button you are looking for.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 7:18 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Ed,

           I can get neither JAWS nor NVDA to behave in what I consider to be a rational way with regard to getting to the "Enable Editing" button in Protected View.  I long ago disabled protected view in my own MS-Office programs because I either know or am very selective about the sources of any MS-Office file I'll download and open.

           One of the articles is about Adjusting Protected View Settings in MS-Office Programs and it's focus is on turning protected view off so that you don't have to deal with it.

            I'm going to ask on the NVDA and JAWS groups whether the behavior I'm seeing with regard to an inability to navigate to the Enable Editing button is a bug or whether I just don't know what I'm doing as far as getting to it.
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor

 


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Ed,

           I can get neither JAWS nor NVDA to behave in what I consider to be a rational way with regard to getting to the "Enable Editing" button in Protected View.  I long ago disabled protected view in my own MS-Office programs because I either know or am very selective about the sources of any MS-Office file I'll download and open.

           One of the articles is about Adjusting Protected View Settings in MS-Office Programs and it's focus is on turning protected view off so that you don't have to deal with it.

            I'm going to ask on the NVDA and JAWS groups whether the behavior I'm seeing with regard to an inability to navigate to the Enable Editing button is a bug or whether I just don't know what I'm doing as far as getting to it.
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor



Re: Free Accessible DVD Maker

 

Hi,
Windows 10 natively supports burning stuff to DVD's.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lanie Molinar
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 4:39 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Free Accessible DVD Maker

Hi. I apologize if this is off-topic on some of the mailing lists I'm sending this to, but I need any help I can get. I haven't posted much or at all on some of the mailing lists I'm sending this to, but I want to try to be more involved and have a question. My mom wants me to create a slideshow of pictures for one of my sisters and burn it to a DVD. She just asked me to do this last night, so I don't have much time. I know how to create the slideshow and convert it to a video, but I don't know of a accessible DVD maker that works on Windows 10. Does anyone know of one or have a suggestion for one I should try? If so, please get back to me as soon as you can. Also, please forward this to any people or you think might be able to help and any relevant mailing lists. Thanks.


Free Accessible DVD Maker

 

Hi. I apologize if this is off-topic on some of the mailing lists I'm sending this to, but I need any help I can get. I haven't posted much or at all on some of the mailing lists I'm sending this to, but I want to try to be more involved and have a question. My mom wants me to create a slideshow of pictures for one of my sisters and burn it to a DVD. She just asked me to do this last night, so I don't have much time. I know how to create the slideshow and convert it to a video, but I don't know of a accessible DVD maker that works on Windows 10. Does anyone know of one or have a suggestion for one I should try? If so, please get back to me as soon as you can. Also, please forward this to any people or you think might be able to help and any relevant mailing lists. Thanks.


Re: Article (PC Mag): Microsoft admits it was too aggressiveabout Windows 10

 

Yeah, I got this in a twitter feed.
Ms over compensated as usual.
My issue is not the autoupdating or the big issues windows10 can have.
But what ms actually did.
Yes it worked but it left the os in an over driven hype mode where everyone said it was better than it actually was.
Ok granted, ms have got a lot right especially with their insider program.
Their startup menu is ok, I can't seem to select all things and I really don't care for the ribbons.
nvda will sometimes crash on universal apps but they are putting a lot in.
One of my complaints if you will is not edge, it is in fact that a lot of people and casts are mentioning how good narator is.
It may be less crappy than it was but in my opinion it will always be substandard.
Thats after all why we have nvda, its sadly also why we have jaws and stuff.
In the beginning ms didn't have much, and even if they want to, no one will actually change for that.
Everyone is playing ms catchup.
I wouldn't mind if every screen reader company closed up and we got something like voiceover or even better but hmmm.

On 24/12/2016 6:58 a.m., Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,



Sometimes, it is helpful to look at the downsides of Windows 10 ecosystem,
and the article (linked below) captures this well. As a Windows Insider, I
myself agree that overall tactic from Microsoft when it came to upgrade
notifications was aggressive at times (you may remember a discussion several
months ago regarding GWX and others).



Article link:

Microsoft admits it was too aggressive about Windows 10 (PC Mag):

http://www.pcmag.com/news/350584/microsoft-admits-it-was-too-aggressive-abou
t-windows-10



The reason for posting this is to demonstrate that, like anything else,
Windows 10 has both positive and negative things to talk about, and also for
a chance for us to think about what we are facing.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Request for Windows10 build 14986 official ISO

 

Hi,
I remember someone asking on the insiders subgroup a few days ago -
forwarded it there in hopes that someone did save the link to the file.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Allan WKF
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 7:28 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Request for Windows10 build 14986 official ISO

Hi all,

As subject line stated, anyone have the download link for the official ISO
file? I am looking for both 32bit and 64bit version. I need to install one
of the machine that doesn't online.

Thank you in advance.

--

Allan WKF


Request for Windows10 build 14986 official ISO

Allan WKF
 

Hi all,

As subject line stated, anyone have the download link for the official ISO
file? I am looking for both 32bit and 64bit version. I need to install one
of the machine that doesn't online.

Thank you in advance.

--

Allan WKF


Re: Article (PC Mag): Microsoft admits it was too aggressiveabout Windows 10

Ron Kolesar
 

Hey Dave.
Just like a coin, everything in live has a heads and a taile or is it tail.
Or in short everything in life has a good side and a bad side.
But here’s to the positive of life and not the negative.
Merry Christmas to all.
Ron who just would like his medical issues solved for his Christmas presents.
 

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 06:19 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Article (PC Mag): Microsoft admits it was too aggressiveabout Windows 10
 

Thank you so much, Joseph,

I always try to remember that a coin has to sides, heads and tails. It is up to us which side is the good side, and the not so good side lOLOLOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:59 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Article (PC Mag): Microsoft admits it was too aggressiveabout Windows 10

 

Hi all,

 

Sometimes, it is helpful to look at the downsides of Windows 10 ecosystem, and the article (linked below) captures this well. As a Windows Insider, I myself agree that overall tactic from Microsoft when it came to upgrade notifications was aggressive at times (you may remember a discussion several months ago regarding GWX and others).

 

Article link:

Microsoft admits it was too aggressive about Windows 10 (PC Mag):

http://www.pcmag.com/news/350584/microsoft-admits-it-was-too-aggressive-about-windows-10

 

The reason for posting this is to demonstrate that, like anything else, Windows 10 has both positive and negative things to talk about, and also for a chance for us to think about what we are facing.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Mr. Ed
 

Hi Brian,

I went and click on some of your to do links. After downloading and opening up your link in word they open up in protective view. I do have a little vision and was able to click on enable editing then I was able to read the document. Now hear is my question. How do you click on the link with Jaws to enable editing button with Jaws?

Mr. Ed

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:52 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

Ed, and all others asking about access to these lists.  I will repost the entire collection following this little tutorial of sorts that won't be much of a tutorial.  Each and every one of these sets of instructions is presented as a link.  Activating that link will trigger the corresponding file to download to your computer.  I cannot say whether that means it will go to your Downloads folder or elsewhere because I can't know who has the "Always ask me where to save a file" setting turned on in their favorite web browser.

After the file is downloaded it's an MS-Word file like any other that you can simply select, activate the selected file, and have it open in MS-Word.  If you do not have Microsoft Office the Word format files will also open in Open Office or Libre Office (and several other alternative office suites) if this is what you have on your computer.

That being said, here's the list of links again just so you have them in this message and don't have to dig up the two old ones to find the links:

--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor

 


Re: Article (PC Mag): Microsoft admits it was too aggressiveabout Windows 10

David Moore
 

Thank you so much, Joseph,

I always try to remember that a coin has to sides, heads and tails. It is up to us which side is the good side, and the not so good side lOLOLOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:59 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Article (PC Mag): Microsoft admits it was too aggressiveabout Windows 10

 

Hi all,

 

Sometimes, it is helpful to look at the downsides of Windows 10 ecosystem, and the article (linked below) captures this well. As a Windows Insider, I myself agree that overall tactic from Microsoft when it came to upgrade notifications was aggressive at times (you may remember a discussion several months ago regarding GWX and others).

 

Article link:

Microsoft admits it was too aggressive about Windows 10 (PC Mag):

http://www.pcmag.com/news/350584/microsoft-admits-it-was-too-aggressive-about-windows-10

 

The reason for posting this is to demonstrate that, like anything else, Windows 10 has both positive and negative things to talk about, and also for a chance for us to think about what we are facing.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Gary Ray wrote:
So, are all of these files for Win 10 AFTER the Anniversary update?

No.  For heaven's sake, it takes two minutes, if that, to go through the list of links.  The title of each makes its purpose, platform, and time period self evident.

All the proverbial horses have now been led to water . . .
--
Brian

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

    ~ Herman Melville (1819 - 1891), US novelist & sailor



Re: Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #wikiproposal

Gary Ray
 

Joseph:

 

This is exactly what I needed.

 

I hope an old dog can learn a new trick or two!

 

Meppy Kwanahonaramasolmas!

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:15 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi,

This clears up a lot of things, and apologies for my wording before…

Yes, the wiki is set up so that members of this forum can edit (we don’t want public vandalism).

To edit a post, you’ll first need to log in. Go to groups.io homepage, then look for a link that says, “log in” or “sign in” (one of these should work). Then enter your email address once the form comes up. Then you’ll be asked to set up a password (perhaps another form once you press ENTER after entering your email address). Set up the password. Alternatively, you can log into the web interface if you have a Gmail or a Facebook account (if so, you can use links that invites you to log in using these credentials).

Once you log in, go to the wiki page (win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki), then if you wish to edit a page, go to that page and go to edit control (a button or a link I believe). Then you can edit wiki pages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:07 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

I am sorry, but maybe I need to be a bit more descriptive.  I went to the Wiki page.  It says there that only folks in this group can edit or post.  So, I need more details on exactly how this works.

 

Are you saying that I’ll need to go to the main group page and set up a password?

 

It is very difficult to get all of this when your answers are aimed at a person who is well above my level of experience.

 

I have seen a couple of posts from folks saying the same sort of things. I know I’d appreciate it if you would aim your answers at a person who is not at your level of understanding.

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:01 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi,

The web interface? You’d go to groups.io, then select “log in” or something similar. Enter your email address, and if you haven’t set up your password, you’ll be invited to set one up.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:57 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

So, how does one log in to this site?

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:16 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi everyone,

 

For those who are new to this forum and subgroups: we actually do have a wiki:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki

 

Although this wiki is minimalist compared to wikis on other forums, I believe it is time to change that. The proposals for new pages are:

 

  • Brian’s tutorials: I believe that it would be helpful to place Brian’s tutorial links under one roof (a wiki page with links to his tutorials).
  • Comparison between stable builds: for some time, I thought about a wiki page that would present feature differences between stable builds, namely new settings, limitations and so on. Any thoughts on this?

 

Note that in order to edit wiki pages, you need to have ability to access the web interface. For best presentation results, I use Markdown to format wiki pages.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #wikiproposal

 

Hi,

Wiki is visible to anyone around the world (no need to log in just to view it).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:35 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Joseph,

 

What if I only want to read the information. Do I still need permission to edit?

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:15

Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi,

This clears up a lot of things, and apologies for my wording before…

Yes, the wiki is set up so that members of this forum can edit (we don’t want public vandalism).

To edit a post, you’ll first need to log in. Go to groups.io homepage, then look for a link that says, “log in” or “sign in” (one of these should work). Then enter your email address once the form comes up. Then you’ll be asked to set up a password (perhaps another form once you press ENTER after entering your email address). Set up the password. Alternatively, you can log into the web interface if you have a Gmail or a Facebook account (if so, you can use links that invites you to log in using these credentials).

Once you log in, go to the wiki page (win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki), then if you wish to edit a page, go to that page and go to edit control (a button or a link I believe). Then you can edit wiki pages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:07 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

I am sorry, but maybe I need to be a bit more descriptive.  I went to the Wiki page.  It says there that only folks in this group can edit or post.  So, I need more details on exactly how this works.

 

Are you saying that I’ll need to go to the main group page and set up a password?

 

It is very difficult to get all of this when your answers are aimed at a person who is well above my level of experience.

 

I have seen a couple of posts from folks saying the same sort of things. I know I’d appreciate it if you would aim your answers at a person who is not at your level of understanding.

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:01 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi,

The web interface? You’d go to groups.io, then select “log in” or something similar. Enter your email address, and if you haven’t set up your password, you’ll be invited to set one up.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:57 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

So, how does one log in to this site?

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:16 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi everyone,

 

For those who are new to this forum and subgroups: we actually do have a wiki:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki

 

Although this wiki is minimalist compared to wikis on other forums, I believe it is time to change that. The proposals for new pages are:

 

  • Brian’s tutorials: I believe that it would be helpful to place Brian’s tutorial links under one roof (a wiki page with links to his tutorials).
  • Comparison between stable builds: for some time, I thought about a wiki page that would present feature differences between stable builds, namely new settings, limitations and so on. Any thoughts on this?

 

Note that in order to edit wiki pages, you need to have ability to access the web interface. For best presentation results, I use Markdown to format wiki pages.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #wikiproposal

Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@...>
 

Joseph,
 
What if I only want to read the information. Do I still need permission to edit?
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:15
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

Hi,

This clears up a lot of things, and apologies for my wording before…

Yes, the wiki is set up so that members of this forum can edit (we don’t want public vandalism).

To edit a post, you’ll first need to log in. Go to groups.io homepage, then look for a link that says, “log in” or “sign in” (one of these should work). Then enter your email address once the form comes up. Then you’ll be asked to set up a password (perhaps another form once you press ENTER after entering your email address). Set up the password. Alternatively, you can log into the web interface if you have a Gmail or a Facebook account (if so, you can use links that invites you to log in using these credentials).

Once you log in, go to the wiki page (win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki), then if you wish to edit a page, go to that page and go to edit control (a button or a link I believe). Then you can edit wiki pages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:07 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

I am sorry, but maybe I need to be a bit more descriptive.  I went to the Wiki page.  It says there that only folks in this group can edit or post.  So, I need more details on exactly how this works.

 

Are you saying that I’ll need to go to the main group page and set up a password?

 

It is very difficult to get all of this when your answers are aimed at a person who is well above my level of experience.

 

I have seen a couple of posts from folks saying the same sort of things. I know I’d appreciate it if you would aim your answers at a person who is not at your level of understanding.

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:01 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi,

The web interface? You’d go to groups.io, then select “log in” or something similar. Enter your email address, and if you haven’t set up your password, you’ll be invited to set one up.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:57 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

So, how does one log in to this site?

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:16 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi everyone,

 

For those who are new to this forum and subgroups: we actually do have a wiki:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki

 

Although this wiki is minimalist compared to wikis on other forums, I believe it is time to change that. The proposals for new pages are:

 

  • Brian’s tutorials: I believe that it would be helpful to place Brian’s tutorial links under one roof (a wiki page with links to his tutorials).
  • Comparison between stable builds: for some time, I thought about a wiki page that would present feature differences between stable builds, namely new settings, limitations and so on. Any thoughts on this?

 

Note that in order to edit wiki pages, you need to have ability to access the web interface. For best presentation results, I use Markdown to format wiki pages.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #wikiproposal

 

Hi,

This clears up a lot of things, and apologies for my wording before…

Yes, the wiki is set up so that members of this forum can edit (we don’t want public vandalism).

To edit a post, you’ll first need to log in. Go to groups.io homepage, then look for a link that says, “log in” or “sign in” (one of these should work). Then enter your email address once the form comes up. Then you’ll be asked to set up a password (perhaps another form once you press ENTER after entering your email address). Set up the password. Alternatively, you can log into the web interface if you have a Gmail or a Facebook account (if so, you can use links that invites you to log in using these credentials).

Once you log in, go to the wiki page (win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki), then if you wish to edit a page, go to that page and go to edit control (a button or a link I believe). Then you can edit wiki pages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:07 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

I am sorry, but maybe I need to be a bit more descriptive.  I went to the Wiki page.  It says there that only folks in this group can edit or post.  So, I need more details on exactly how this works.

 

Are you saying that I’ll need to go to the main group page and set up a password?

 

It is very difficult to get all of this when your answers are aimed at a person who is well above my level of experience.

 

I have seen a couple of posts from folks saying the same sort of things. I know I’d appreciate it if you would aim your answers at a person who is not at your level of understanding.

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:01 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi,

The web interface? You’d go to groups.io, then select “log in” or something similar. Enter your email address, and if you haven’t set up your password, you’ll be invited to set one up.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:57 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

So, how does one log in to this site?

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:16 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi everyone,

 

For those who are new to this forum and subgroups: we actually do have a wiki:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki

 

Although this wiki is minimalist compared to wikis on other forums, I believe it is time to change that. The proposals for new pages are:

 

  • Brian’s tutorials: I believe that it would be helpful to place Brian’s tutorial links under one roof (a wiki page with links to his tutorials).
  • Comparison between stable builds: for some time, I thought about a wiki page that would present feature differences between stable builds, namely new settings, limitations and so on. Any thoughts on this?

 

Note that in order to edit wiki pages, you need to have ability to access the web interface. For best presentation results, I use Markdown to format wiki pages.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #wikiproposal

Gary Ray
 

I am sorry, but maybe I need to be a bit more descriptive.  I went to the Wiki page.  It says there that only folks in this group can edit or post.  So, I need more details on exactly how this works.

 

Are you saying that I’ll need to go to the main group page and set up a password?

 

It is very difficult to get all of this when your answers are aimed at a person who is well above my level of experience.

 

I have seen a couple of posts from folks saying the same sort of things. I know I’d appreciate it if you would aim your answers at a person who is not at your level of understanding.

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:01 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi,

The web interface? You’d go to groups.io, then select “log in” or something similar. Enter your email address, and if you haven’t set up your password, you’ll be invited to set one up.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:57 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

So, how does one log in to this site?

 

Gary Ray

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:16 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Forum wiki proposal: Linking Brian's tutorials under one roof, a page for discussing differences between stable builds #WikiProposal

 

Hi everyone,

 

For those who are new to this forum and subgroups: we actually do have a wiki:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/wiki

 

Although this wiki is minimalist compared to wikis on other forums, I believe it is time to change that. The proposals for new pages are:

 

  • Brian’s tutorials: I believe that it would be helpful to place Brian’s tutorial links under one roof (a wiki page with links to his tutorials).
  • Comparison between stable builds: for some time, I thought about a wiki page that would present feature differences between stable builds, namely new settings, limitations and so on. Any thoughts on this?

 

Note that in order to edit wiki pages, you need to have ability to access the web interface. For best presentation results, I use Markdown to format wiki pages.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph