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Re: arkive of todays conference:

David Tanner
 

What is the link and login info for Teamtalk?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 2:22 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] arkive of todays conference:

Hi,
In fact, due to host of technical issues with TCConference today, we'll hold
session 2 (Windows Insider session) via both TCConference and TeamTalk
(TeamTalk is there for contingency in case TCConference fails again). We'll
consider using TT starting with our next Congress this summer.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: David Tanner [mailto:david.tanner100@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 12:12 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] arkive of todays conference:

I guess that is a good thing since I just tried to go to the conference and
the required plug-in file Windows and Internet Explorer says is corrupt and
is not usable.

Maybe we should consider Teamtalk next time.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons [mailto:akp@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 1:20 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] arkive of todays conference:

Hi all,

Yes, there will be an archive of the session.

Ann P.

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Re: arkive of todays conference:

 

Hi,
In fact, due to host of technical issues with TCConference today, we'll hold
session 2 (Windows Insider session) via both TCConference and TeamTalk
(TeamTalk is there for contingency in case TCConference fails again). We'll
consider using TT starting with our next Congress this summer.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: David Tanner [mailto:david.tanner100@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 12:12 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] arkive of todays conference:

I guess that is a good thing since I just tried to go to the conference and
the required plug-in file Windows and Internet Explorer says is corrupt and
is not usable.

Maybe we should consider Teamtalk next time.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons [mailto:akp@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 1:20 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] arkive of todays conference:

Hi all,

Yes, there will be an archive of the session.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
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Skype: Putertutor

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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: arkive of todays conference:

David Tanner
 

I guess that is a good thing since I just tried to go to the conference and
the required plug-in file Windows and Internet Explorer says is corrupt and
is not usable.

Maybe we should consider Teamtalk next time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons [mailto:akp@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 1:20 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] arkive of todays conference:

Hi all,

Yes, there will be an archive of the session.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: arkive of todays conference:

Lino Morales
 

Yes there will. Ask Joeseph the URL to get it later.

On 1/30/2016 1:42 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Hi will there be a arkive of the confference on accessible world for windows 10? I tried to enter the room with internet explorer and mozilla firefox, and windows keeps telling me that the program quit working. I even unstalled the plugin and reinstalled the plugin.
Kenny Peyatt jr.


Re: arkive of todays conference:

Armando <braille.bt4753@...>
 

Yes. There will be a recording of the conference.

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Re: arkive of todays conference:

Ann Parsons <akp@...>
 

Hi all,

Yes, there will be an archive of the session.

Ann P.

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arkive of todays conference:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi will there be a arkive of the confference on accessible world for windows 10? I tried to enter the room with internet explorer and mozilla firefox, and windows keeps telling me that the program quit working. I even unstalled the plugin and reinstalled the plugin.
Kenny Peyatt jr.


Re: Rss feed for subgroups

David Ouimet
 

 Thanks Joseph, I appreciate that. I use the web interface when interacting with the group & was hoping could to through the other subgroups too if possible.    


Re: Default sound card?

Roger Stewart
 

I'll give it a try. That's what I did in Win 7 but it always detects when I attach the external card and switches it to default even though I set it as you said before. Lets hope Win 10 handles it better.

Thanks.

Roger

On 1/29/2016 11:04 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
well connect that card, then go back to your sound control panel, change back to the internal card and set that as the default with the device connected.
In theory that should be ok just disconnect and it will be good.
Now as long as you don't have a hardware driver go on you you should be fine.



On 30/01/2016 6:39 a.m., Roger Stewart wrote:
I have a need for 2 sound cards on my Win 10 laptop. One will be a
little external USB device and the other is the built in one. I want to
keep the built in one as Windows default and the USB one as another
device. Problem is that I'll be disconnecting the USB one when not in
use to free up the USB port. On my Win 7, when I do this and later re
connect it, it calls the USB device to be switched to the default sound
card. I need a way to permanently set the built in sound card as
Windows default and the UsB as secondary one when connected no matter if
I later disconnect and then re connect in the future. Any ideas?

Thanks.

Roger






Re: anti viruses

Armando <braille.bt4753@...>
 

I think that you should try AVG in which the easiest way to install it is to go to www.ninite.com

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Re: Proposal (high importance): Bringing nvda-winten group as a subgroup of this forum

Ann Parsons <akp@...>
 

Hi all,

I vote yes.

Ann P.

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anti viruses

Mr & Mrs van den berg <vandenbergct@...>
 

Hi

What is the best free anti virus for windows 10

Thanks

Timmy

 


Windows 10 Forum Congress, Saturday, 30 January 2016 #cal-notice

Win10 Calendar <noreply@...>
 

"Windows 10 Forum Congress"

When: Saturday, 30 January 2016
Where: Accessible World Tek Talk training room
Description:

Invitation to Windows 10 Forum Congress

You are cordially invited to Windows 10 Forum Congress, which will take place on January 30, 2016 at Accessible World Tek Talk training room (www.accessibleworld.org). Anyone using or interested in Windows 10, as well as people interested in state of accessibility of Windows 10 are welcome to join the sessions below:

  • Session 1: 10 AM Pacific (1 PM Eastern, 1800 UTC): General session. Topics include Windows 10 deployment statistics, demonstrations of Windows 10 features, open forum on Windows 10 and its accessibility and a discussion on Windows 10 forum policies.
  • Session 2: 3 PM Pacific (6 PM Eastern, 2300 UTC): Windows Insider program. Topics include accessibility of latest Insider build, open forum for members of Windows Insider program.

Hope to see you on the 30th.

Sincerely, Win10 Forum members and leadership team


Re: Proposal (high importance): Bringing nvda-winten group as a subgroup of this forum

 

i think we have 1 main group for all screen readers and a sub group
for insiders

On 1/30/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Well I know this may come out as a bit biased to nvda.
But this thing was created by predominantly nvda users.
And its fair to suggest and assume the most we discuss is nvda based on
the main group at least.
I therefore make a counter proposal.
What objections do anyone have just merging the entire nvda win10 into
the main group since we nvda users made the group in the first place.
I understand if you want to make it a subgroup, however As an nvda user
I'd like it dumped here.
The other option is to just delete nvda-win10 and port everyone to the
main group entirely.
Then rout certain things outside the group.
Ie the nvda addons list can have win10 spaciffic addons in.
The other way would be to just merge the nvda win10 group to the main
nvda group.
We allready have a nvda group on freelists.
In this reguard why would we actually want to put it here.
Nvda-winten was created when the insider builds came out, its sort of
had its dash.



On 30/01/2016 9:10 a.m., Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Win10 forum participants,

One of the design goals of this forum is to bring in experts from diverse
fields. In particular, during state of the list address last year, I have
outlined a vision of this list being run as a conference gathering where
we
could have groups specializing in one area, and we now have this in place
with a subgroup for Windows Insider Program participants.

Seeing the success of Windows Insider subgroup, and to make discussion of
using Windows 10 with specific screen readers possible, I would like to
propose creating a subgroup for screen reader users, starting with NVDA.
In
case of this proposal, this is more towards a hybrid of subgroup and list
merger.



Background: Shortly after launch of Windows Insider program back in
October
2014, a group of NVDA users formed nvda-winten list to discuss state of
accessibility of Insider builds (back then, it was called Technical
Preview). Members of that group discussed workarounds for issues with
specific builds, coordinated feedback submission and became testers for
NVDA
builds which included needed fixes to support Windows 10. After the
release
of Windows 10 in July 2015, nvda-winten group members discussed
accessibility of Windows 10 RTM builds as well as further Insider builds
released throughout 2015. Then with the opening of this Win10 forum in
October 2015, a number of nvda-winten group members proposed that these
two
lists be merged and/or letting nvda-winten group become a subgroup of
Win10
forum.



Proposal: Should nvda-winten list
(http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda-winten) become a subgroup of Win10
forum?



Benefits:

* Questions about Windows 10 can be discussed on this forum by
members of nvda-winten list without having to post questions to two
separate
email lists.

* Allows discussion of NVDA-specific issues in the context of
Windows 10 and related topics.

* By becoming a subgroup of this list, members can subscribe to
both
lists if interested, and allows them to receive important Win10
announcements.

* Allows easy filtering of email content via subject line
(win10+nvda will be the subject line).



Disadvantages:

* One must be a member of this group to subscribe to NVDA
subgroup.

* One may not know if a question applies to all screen readers or
just to NVDA.

* Extra work for leadership team to know which subgroup is which
(thankfully, group descriptions and URL will be useful).



Merger/subgroup creation procedure: if the above proposal is adopted, the
following procedure will be used to merge these lists:



1. Merger agreement: members of nvda-winten list are in favor of
merger/subgroup creation. The merger will proceed if members of this
Win10
forum are in favor of list merger/subgroup creation as outlined in the
state
of the list address in October 2015 (list merger/deletion cannot happen
without consent from the list membership).

2. Once both lists agree to merge, I will set the merger/subgroup
creation deadline when members of the nvda-winten list will become
members
of this list.

3. You may recall our leadership election in 2015, and one of the
questions was electing screen reader representatives. Our NVDA
representative (Austin Pinto) will lead the NVDA subgroup. He is still
answerable to members and to current list representatives (Joseph and
Allan).



If you have questions, suggestions, comments or concerns, please write to
the list leadership team at win10+owner@groups.io
<mailto:win10+owner@groups.io> . You may also write to this address (not
to
the forum) if you'd like to vote on this proposal (yes or no). This
proposal
will be adopted if: at least 25% turn-out (more than 55 members voting)
with
two-thirds of voters (37 or more) saying "yes". The voting turn-out was
set
high to encourage participation and to hear opinions from members. This
proposal vote will close a week from now (Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12
PM
Pacific (20:00 UTC).



Thank you (I will bring this up again towards the end of session 1 of
Win10
Forum Congress).

Sincerely,

Joseph





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Re: Proposal (high importance): Bringing nvda-winten group as a subgroup of this forum

 

Well I know this may come out as a bit biased to nvda.
But this thing was created by predominantly nvda users.
And its fair to suggest and assume the most we discuss is nvda based on the main group at least.
I therefore make a counter proposal.
What objections do anyone have just merging the entire nvda win10 into the main group since we nvda users made the group in the first place.
I understand if you want to make it a subgroup, however As an nvda user I'd like it dumped here.
The other option is to just delete nvda-win10 and port everyone to the main group entirely.
Then rout certain things outside the group.
Ie the nvda addons list can have win10 spaciffic addons in.
The other way would be to just merge the nvda win10 group to the main nvda group.
We allready have a nvda group on freelists.
In this reguard why would we actually want to put it here.
Nvda-winten was created when the insider builds came out, its sort of had its dash.

On 30/01/2016 9:10 a.m., Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Win10 forum participants,

One of the design goals of this forum is to bring in experts from diverse
fields. In particular, during state of the list address last year, I have
outlined a vision of this list being run as a conference gathering where we
could have groups specializing in one area, and we now have this in place
with a subgroup for Windows Insider Program participants.

Seeing the success of Windows Insider subgroup, and to make discussion of
using Windows 10 with specific screen readers possible, I would like to
propose creating a subgroup for screen reader users, starting with NVDA. In
case of this proposal, this is more towards a hybrid of subgroup and list
merger.



Background: Shortly after launch of Windows Insider program back in October
2014, a group of NVDA users formed nvda-winten list to discuss state of
accessibility of Insider builds (back then, it was called Technical
Preview). Members of that group discussed workarounds for issues with
specific builds, coordinated feedback submission and became testers for NVDA
builds which included needed fixes to support Windows 10. After the release
of Windows 10 in July 2015, nvda-winten group members discussed
accessibility of Windows 10 RTM builds as well as further Insider builds
released throughout 2015. Then with the opening of this Win10 forum in
October 2015, a number of nvda-winten group members proposed that these two
lists be merged and/or letting nvda-winten group become a subgroup of Win10
forum.



Proposal: Should nvda-winten list
(http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda-winten) become a subgroup of Win10
forum?



Benefits:

* Questions about Windows 10 can be discussed on this forum by
members of nvda-winten list without having to post questions to two separate
email lists.

* Allows discussion of NVDA-specific issues in the context of
Windows 10 and related topics.

* By becoming a subgroup of this list, members can subscribe to both
lists if interested, and allows them to receive important Win10
announcements.

* Allows easy filtering of email content via subject line
(win10+nvda will be the subject line).



Disadvantages:

* One must be a member of this group to subscribe to NVDA subgroup.

* One may not know if a question applies to all screen readers or
just to NVDA.

* Extra work for leadership team to know which subgroup is which
(thankfully, group descriptions and URL will be useful).



Merger/subgroup creation procedure: if the above proposal is adopted, the
following procedure will be used to merge these lists:



1. Merger agreement: members of nvda-winten list are in favor of
merger/subgroup creation. The merger will proceed if members of this Win10
forum are in favor of list merger/subgroup creation as outlined in the state
of the list address in October 2015 (list merger/deletion cannot happen
without consent from the list membership).

2. Once both lists agree to merge, I will set the merger/subgroup
creation deadline when members of the nvda-winten list will become members
of this list.

3. You may recall our leadership election in 2015, and one of the
questions was electing screen reader representatives. Our NVDA
representative (Austin Pinto) will lead the NVDA subgroup. He is still
answerable to members and to current list representatives (Joseph and
Allan).



If you have questions, suggestions, comments or concerns, please write to
the list leadership team at win10+owner@groups.io
<mailto:win10+owner@groups.io> . You may also write to this address (not to
the forum) if you'd like to vote on this proposal (yes or no). This proposal
will be adopted if: at least 25% turn-out (more than 55 members voting) with
two-thirds of voters (37 or more) saying "yes". The voting turn-out was set
high to encourage participation and to hear opinions from members. This
proposal vote will close a week from now (Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12 PM
Pacific (20:00 UTC).



Thank you (I will bring this up again towards the end of session 1 of Win10
Forum Congress).

Sincerely,

Joseph




Re: Default sound card?

 

well connect that card, then go back to your sound control panel, change back to the internal card and set that as the default with the device connected.
In theory that should be ok just disconnect and it will be good.
Now as long as you don't have a hardware driver go on you you should be fine.

On 30/01/2016 6:39 a.m., Roger Stewart wrote:
I have a need for 2 sound cards on my Win 10 laptop. One will be a
little external USB device and the other is the built in one. I want to
keep the built in one as Windows default and the USB one as another
device. Problem is that I'll be disconnecting the USB one when not in
use to free up the USB port. On my Win 7, when I do this and later re
connect it, it calls the USB device to be switched to the default sound
card. I need a way to permanently set the built in sound card as
Windows default and the UsB as secondary one when connected no matter if
I later disconnect and then re connect in the future. Any ideas?

Thanks.

Roger




Re: Proposal (high importance): Bringing nvda-winten group as a subgroup of this forum

Brian <n8mnx@...>
 

I vote yes I'am a nvda user it's my only screen reader I am on windows 10 now.
Brian Sackrider

On 1/29/2016 7:48 PM, Allen West wrote:
On 1/29/16, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi Win10 forum participants,

One of the design goals of this forum is to bring in experts from diverse
fields. In particular, during state of the list address last year, I have
outlined a vision of this list being run as a conference gathering where we
could have groups specializing in one area, and we now have this in place
with a subgroup for Windows Insider Program participants.

Seeing the success of Windows Insider subgroup, and to make discussion of
using Windows 10 with specific screen readers possible, I would like to
propose creating a subgroup for screen reader users, starting with NVDA. In
case of this proposal, this is more towards a hybrid of subgroup and list
merger.



Background: Shortly after launch of Windows Insider program back in October
2014, a group of NVDA users formed nvda-winten list to discuss state of
accessibility of Insider builds (back then, it was called Technical
Preview). Members of that group discussed workarounds for issues with
specific builds, coordinated feedback submission and became testers for
NVDA
builds which included needed fixes to support Windows 10. After the release
of Windows 10 in July 2015, nvda-winten group members discussed
accessibility of Windows 10 RTM builds as well as further Insider builds
released throughout 2015. Then with the opening of this Win10 forum in
October 2015, a number of nvda-winten group members proposed that these two
lists be merged and/or letting nvda-winten group become a subgroup of Win10
forum.



Proposal: Should nvda-winten list
(http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda-winten) become a subgroup of Win10
forum?



Benefits:

* Questions about Windows 10 can be discussed on this forum by
members of nvda-winten list without having to post questions to two
separate
email lists.

* Allows discussion of NVDA-specific issues in the context of
Windows 10 and related topics.

* By becoming a subgroup of this list, members can subscribe to
both
lists if interested, and allows them to receive important Win10
announcements.

* Allows easy filtering of email content via subject line
(win10+nvda will be the subject line).



Disadvantages:

* One must be a member of this group to subscribe to NVDA subgroup.

* One may not know if a question applies to all screen readers or
just to NVDA.

* Extra work for leadership team to know which subgroup is which
(thankfully, group descriptions and URL will be useful).



Merger/subgroup creation procedure: if the above proposal is adopted, the
following procedure will be used to merge these lists:



1. Merger agreement: members of nvda-winten list are in favor of
merger/subgroup creation. The merger will proceed if members of this Win10
forum are in favor of list merger/subgroup creation as outlined in the
state
of the list address in October 2015 (list merger/deletion cannot happen
without consent from the list membership).

2. Once both lists agree to merge, I will set the merger/subgroup
creation deadline when members of the nvda-winten list will become members
of this list.

3. You may recall our leadership election in 2015, and one of the
questions was electing screen reader representatives. Our NVDA
representative (Austin Pinto) will lead the NVDA subgroup. He is still
answerable to members and to current list representatives (Joseph and
Allan).



If you have questions, suggestions, comments or concerns, please write to
the list leadership team at win10+owner@groups.io
<mailto:win10+owner@groups.io> . You may also write to this address (not to
the forum) if you'd like to vote on this proposal (yes or no). This
proposal
will be adopted if: at least 25% turn-out (more than 55 members voting)
with
two-thirds of voters (37 or more) saying "yes". The voting turn-out was set
high to encourage participation and to hear opinions from members. This
proposal vote will close a week from now (Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12 PM
Pacific (20:00 UTC).



Thank you (I will bring this up again towards the end of session 1 of Win10
Forum Congress).

Sincerely,

Joseph



This is a great idea. Let's do it!



Re: Proposal (high importance): Bringing nvda-winten group as a subgroup of this forum

Allen West
 

On 1/29/16, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi Win10 forum participants,

One of the design goals of this forum is to bring in experts from diverse
fields. In particular, during state of the list address last year, I have
outlined a vision of this list being run as a conference gathering where we
could have groups specializing in one area, and we now have this in place
with a subgroup for Windows Insider Program participants.

Seeing the success of Windows Insider subgroup, and to make discussion of
using Windows 10 with specific screen readers possible, I would like to
propose creating a subgroup for screen reader users, starting with NVDA. In
case of this proposal, this is more towards a hybrid of subgroup and list
merger.



Background: Shortly after launch of Windows Insider program back in October
2014, a group of NVDA users formed nvda-winten list to discuss state of
accessibility of Insider builds (back then, it was called Technical
Preview). Members of that group discussed workarounds for issues with
specific builds, coordinated feedback submission and became testers for
NVDA
builds which included needed fixes to support Windows 10. After the release
of Windows 10 in July 2015, nvda-winten group members discussed
accessibility of Windows 10 RTM builds as well as further Insider builds
released throughout 2015. Then with the opening of this Win10 forum in
October 2015, a number of nvda-winten group members proposed that these two
lists be merged and/or letting nvda-winten group become a subgroup of Win10
forum.



Proposal: Should nvda-winten list
(http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda-winten) become a subgroup of Win10
forum?



Benefits:

* Questions about Windows 10 can be discussed on this forum by
members of nvda-winten list without having to post questions to two
separate
email lists.

* Allows discussion of NVDA-specific issues in the context of
Windows 10 and related topics.

* By becoming a subgroup of this list, members can subscribe to
both
lists if interested, and allows them to receive important Win10
announcements.

* Allows easy filtering of email content via subject line
(win10+nvda will be the subject line).



Disadvantages:

* One must be a member of this group to subscribe to NVDA subgroup.

* One may not know if a question applies to all screen readers or
just to NVDA.

* Extra work for leadership team to know which subgroup is which
(thankfully, group descriptions and URL will be useful).



Merger/subgroup creation procedure: if the above proposal is adopted, the
following procedure will be used to merge these lists:



1. Merger agreement: members of nvda-winten list are in favor of
merger/subgroup creation. The merger will proceed if members of this Win10
forum are in favor of list merger/subgroup creation as outlined in the
state
of the list address in October 2015 (list merger/deletion cannot happen
without consent from the list membership).

2. Once both lists agree to merge, I will set the merger/subgroup
creation deadline when members of the nvda-winten list will become members
of this list.

3. You may recall our leadership election in 2015, and one of the
questions was electing screen reader representatives. Our NVDA
representative (Austin Pinto) will lead the NVDA subgroup. He is still
answerable to members and to current list representatives (Joseph and
Allan).



If you have questions, suggestions, comments or concerns, please write to
the list leadership team at win10+owner@groups.io
<mailto:win10+owner@groups.io> . You may also write to this address (not to
the forum) if you'd like to vote on this proposal (yes or no). This
proposal
will be adopted if: at least 25% turn-out (more than 55 members voting)
with
two-thirds of voters (37 or more) saying "yes". The voting turn-out was set
high to encourage participation and to hear opinions from members. This
proposal vote will close a week from now (Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12 PM
Pacific (20:00 UTC).



Thank you (I will bring this up again towards the end of session 1 of Win10
Forum Congress).

Sincerely,

Joseph



This is a great idea. Let's do it!


Re: Rss feed for subgroups

 

Hi,

I’ll bring this up with Groups.IO staff and beta testers.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: David Ouimet [mailto:whitewater2612@...]
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 3:03 PM
To: win10@groups.io
Subject: [win10] Rss feed for subgroups

 

I get the messages from this list through the rss feed on the groups.io website. On the subgroup links on that page they don’t have rss feeds on them. Is that something that could be added.

 

Thanks David


Re: Proposal (high importance): Bringing nvda-winten group as a subgroup of this forum

Scott VanDeWalle
 

go for it

On 1/29/2016 3:10 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Win10 forum participants,

One of the design goals of this forum is to bring in experts from
diverse fields. In particular, during state of the list address last
year, I have outlined a vision of this list being run as a conference
gathering where we could have groups specializing in one area, and we
now have this in place with a subgroup for Windows Insider Program
participants.

Seeing the success of Windows Insider subgroup, and to make discussion
of using Windows 10 with specific screen readers possible, I would like
to propose creating a subgroup for screen reader users, starting with
NVDA. In case of this proposal, this is more towards a hybrid of
subgroup and list merger.

Background: Shortly after launch of Windows Insider program back in
October 2014, a group of NVDA users formed nvda-winten list to discuss
state of accessibility of Insider builds (back then, it was called
Technical Preview). Members of that group discussed workarounds for
issues with specific builds, coordinated feedback submission and became
testers for NVDA builds which included needed fixes to support Windows
10. After the release of Windows 10 in July 2015, nvda-winten group
members discussed accessibility of Windows 10 RTM builds as well as
further Insider builds released throughout 2015. Then with the opening
of this Win10 forum in October 2015, a number of nvda-winten group
members proposed that these two lists be merged and/or letting
nvda-winten group become a subgroup of Win10 forum.

Proposal: Should nvda-winten list
(http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda-winten) become a subgroup of Win10
forum?

Benefits:

·Questions about Windows 10 can be discussed on this forum by members of
nvda-winten list without having to post questions to two separate email
lists.

·Allows discussion of NVDA-specific issues in the context of Windows 10
and related topics.

·By becoming a subgroup of this list, members can subscribe to both
lists if interested, and allows them to receive important Win10
announcements.

·Allows easy filtering of email content via subject line (win10+nvda
will be the subject line).

Disadvantages:

·One must be a member of this group to subscribe to NVDA subgroup.

·One may not know if a question applies to all screen readers or just to
NVDA.

·Extra work for leadership team to know which subgroup is which
(thankfully, group descriptions and URL will be useful).

Merger/subgroup creation procedure: if the above proposal is adopted,
the following procedure will be used to merge these lists:

1.Merger agreement: members of nvda-winten list are in favor of
merger/subgroup creation. The merger will proceed if members of this
Win10 forum are in favor of list merger/subgroup creation as outlined in
the state of the list address in October 2015 (list merger/deletion
cannot happen without consent from the list membership).

2.Once both lists agree to merge, I will set the merger/subgroup
creation deadline when members of the nvda-winten list will become
members of this list.

3.You may recall our leadership election in 2015, and one of the
questions was electing screen reader representatives. Our NVDA
representative (Austin Pinto) will lead the NVDA subgroup. He is still
answerable to members and to current list representatives (Joseph and
Allan).

If you have questions, suggestions, comments or concerns, please write
to the list leadership team at win10+owner@groups.io
<mailto:win10+owner@groups.io>. You may also write to this address (not
to the forum) if you’d like to vote on this proposal (yes or no). This
proposal will be adopted if: at least 25% turn-out (more than 55 members
voting) with two-thirds of voters (37 or more) saying “yes”. The voting
turn-out was set high to encourage participation and to hear opinions
from members. This proposal vote will close a week from now (Friday,
February 5, 2016 at 12 PM Pacific (20:00 UTC).

Thank you (I will bring this up again towards the end of session 1 of
Win10 Forum Congress).

Sincerely,

Joseph

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