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Re: Display settings keeps coming up on startup of windows

Mr. Ed
 

Hi Brian,

Not running fast startup. Any other ideas why this just started happening?

Mr. Ed

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 9:43 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Display settings keeps coming up on startup of windows

 

This is also strongly suggestive that you still have Fast Startup enabled, as the behavior on Restart differs from firing up from a prior shut down.  Were I you, I would disable it:

Control Panel, Power Options, Choose what the Power Button Does Link, Change settings that are currently unavailable link, uncheck Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended) checkbox, Save Changes button then OK your way out.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

     The specialist knows more and more about less and less and finally knows everything about nothing.

             ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: Upgrade advisory: USB drives and SD card problem, minimum storage requirements changed #WinTenOld #ADVISORY

Roger Stewart
 

Thanks for clearing this up! I never force a feature update anyhow so guess it will be nothing to worry about by the time it rolls out to me.
Roger










On 4/26/2019 10:54 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Before I get into the “meat” of the problem (trusting sources, misinformation, etc.), here’s the official advisory from this forum cluster:

 

Advisory 1: drive letter reassignment possible for some users if a USB drive or an SD card is inserted while performing an in-place upgrade to Version 1903

 

Problem: when performing a feature update to 1903, if a USB drive or an SD card is inserted, Windows Setup may reassign drive letters for some systems.

 

Workaround: resolved in Windows 10 Insider Preview build 18877 (20H1), which will be backported as a cumulative update to Version 1903. If a KB alert with this fix doesn’t show up and you’re offered Feature Update to Windows 10, Version 1903, then remove any USB flash drive(s) and/or SD card(s). Or better yet, do not activate Settings/Update and Security/Windows Update/Check for updates button until this is resolved.

 

Details:

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4500988/windows-update-blocked-because-of-drive-reassignment

 

Advisory 2: minimum storage requirement changed

 

Problem: until now minimum storage requirement was 16 GB for 32-bit, 20 GB for 64-bit. Various websites (including Neowin) are reporting that the minimum storage requirement is now 32 GB for both.

 

Possible cause: reserved storage.

 

Workaround: I recommend freeing up at least 40 GB so upgrade installations can be done smoothly.

 

An important note: this has nothing to do with any assistive technology (I’ll address the “blindness” and “screen readers” comment in an upcoming admin notice).

 

Cheers,

joseph



Re: Display settings keeps coming up on startup of windows

Mr. Ed
 

Hi Sieghard,

I went and followed your directions. The box was not checked. Thanks for the info. Any other ideas?

Mr. Ed

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 9:38 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Display settings keeps coming up on startup of windows

 

Try this:

Open Control Panel

Go to Ease of Access Centre

After you press enter to open the category you should hear “Always scan this section” and I assume in your case this might be checked. Uncheck it and see if that fixes the issue.

After  you uncheck it, just close Control Panel with Alt + F4, there is no OK button to press or anything like that.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 7:15 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Display settings keeps coming up on startup of windows

 

Hi Everyone,

Every morning when I turn my computer on the settings for the display is on my screen. This display dialog box that come up is Windows key + I then ease of access and then display. This is the settings display that keeps coming up when I start my computer in the morning. It never comes up when I do a restart. I cannot find anywhere to turn this off. Anyone have any ideas as to why this settings dialog comes up?

Mr. Ed  


Re: Changing the function key behaviour permanently on my Lenovo ideapad 330S-141KB laptop

 

Not at all, the BIOS is loaded before Windows even boots up so you definitely need sighted help for this.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 9:12 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Changing the function key behaviour permanently on my Lenovo ideapad 330S-141KB laptop

Nope. Function plus escape didn't work unfortunately. Can the bios be accessed with narrator?

On 26 Apr 2019, at 12:45, Shaun Oliver <blindman75@gmail.com> wrote:

a little difficult as that's a function that's controlled in the bios.


On 26/04/2019 21:10, Daniel McGee wrote:
Hi all, subject line says it all really. Does anyone know how to accomplish this on this particular brand of laptop?

Once I have completed this, then I'm perfectly happy with the setup of this machine.

Just wish that microsoft would stick a check box somewhere globally in windows by passing the manufacture. So we as users can just check or un check as needed and get on with our day. Lol

Regards

Daniel


Re: problem with headphones

 

Keep in mind that this still is Beta software so to speak even if Microsoft calls it Windows Insider. You should report this via Feedback because if this effects not only you then Microsoft would have to fix it.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 8:18 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] problem with headphones

 

Hi All,

 

I just updated to win10 1903.  I am using an hp laptop.  I use nvda.  Since I updated I get very low volume out of my headphone jack.  I am using realtech sound card.  I updated the drivers with no luck on the volume.  The update was successful.  Can anyone help me solve this problem?  Thanks for any help.


Re: Changing the function key behaviour permanently on my Lenovo ideapad 330S-141KB laptop

Daniel McGee
 

Nope. Function plus escape didn't work unfortunately. Can the bios be accessed with narrator?

On 26 Apr 2019, at 12:45, Shaun Oliver <blindman75@gmail.com> wrote:

a little difficult as that's a function that's controlled in the bios.


On 26/04/2019 21:10, Daniel McGee wrote:
Hi all, subject line says it all really. Does anyone know how to accomplish this on this particular brand of laptop?

Once I have completed this, then I'm perfectly happy with the setup of this machine.

Just wish that microsoft would stick a check box somewhere globally in windows by passing the manufacture. So we as users can just check or un check as needed and get on with our day. Lol

Regards

Daniel


Re: Upgrade advisory: USB drives and SD card problem, minimum storage requirements changed #WinTenOld #ADVISORY

 

Hi,
As for how it’ll present itself in reality, we shall see.

Cheers,
joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 8:58 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Cc: win10@groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Upgrade advisory: USB drives and SD card problem, minimum storage requirements changed #WinTen1903 #ADVISOR

 

I run a Windows 10 tablet with Windows 10 home 32-bit and it has a 32 gig storage with a 128 gig micro SD card inserted. Does this mean that my storage requirements are too low and I will not be able to upgrade?

 

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 11:54 Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Before I get into the “meat” of the problem (trusting sources, misinformation, etc.), here’s the official advisory from this forum cluster:

 

Advisory 1: drive letter reassignment possible for some users if a USB drive or an SD card is inserted while performing an in-place upgrade to Version 1903

 

Problem: when performing a feature update to 1903, if a USB drive or an SD card is inserted, Windows Setup may reassign drive letters for some systems.

 

Workaround: resolved in Windows 10 Insider Preview build 18877 (20H1), which will be backported as a cumulative update to Version 1903. If a KB alert with this fix doesn’t show up and you’re offered Feature Update to Windows 10, Version 1903, then remove any USB flash drive(s) and/or SD card(s). Or better yet, do not activate Settings/Update and Security/Windows Update/Check for updates button until this is resolved.

 

Details:

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4500988/windows-update-blocked-because-of-drive-reassignment

 

Advisory 2: minimum storage requirement changed

 

Problem: until now minimum storage requirement was 16 GB for 32-bit, 20 GB for 64-bit. Various websites (including Neowin) are reporting that the minimum storage requirement is now 32 GB for both.

 

Possible cause: reserved storage.

 

Workaround: I recommend freeing up at least 40 GB so upgrade installations can be done smoothly.

 

An important note: this has nothing to do with any assistive technology (I’ll address the “blindness” and “screen readers” comment in an upcoming admin notice).

 

Cheers,

joseph


Re: Upgrade advisory: USB drives and SD card problem, minimum storage requirements changed #WinTenOld #ADVISORY

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

I run a Windows 10 tablet with Windows 10 home 32-bit and it has a 32 gig storage with a 128 gig micro SD card inserted. Does this mean that my storage requirements are too low and I will not be able to upgrade?


On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 11:54 Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Before I get into the “meat” of the problem (trusting sources, misinformation, etc.), here’s the official advisory from this forum cluster:

 

Advisory 1: drive letter reassignment possible for some users if a USB drive or an SD card is inserted while performing an in-place upgrade to Version 1903

 

Problem: when performing a feature update to 1903, if a USB drive or an SD card is inserted, Windows Setup may reassign drive letters for some systems.

 

Workaround: resolved in Windows 10 Insider Preview build 18877 (20H1), which will be backported as a cumulative update to Version 1903. If a KB alert with this fix doesn’t show up and you’re offered Feature Update to Windows 10, Version 1903, then remove any USB flash drive(s) and/or SD card(s). Or better yet, do not activate Settings/Update and Security/Windows Update/Check for updates button until this is resolved.

 

Details:

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4500988/windows-update-blocked-because-of-drive-reassignment

 

Advisory 2: minimum storage requirement changed

 

Problem: until now minimum storage requirement was 16 GB for 32-bit, 20 GB for 64-bit. Various websites (including Neowin) are reporting that the minimum storage requirement is now 32 GB for both.

 

Possible cause: reserved storage.

 

Workaround: I recommend freeing up at least 40 GB so upgrade installations can be done smoothly.

 

An important note: this has nothing to do with any assistive technology (I’ll address the “blindness” and “screen readers” comment in an upcoming admin notice).

 

Cheers,

joseph


Upgrade advisory: USB drives and SD card problem, minimum storage requirements changed #WinTenOld #ADVISORY

 

Hi all,

 

Before I get into the “meat” of the problem (trusting sources, misinformation, etc.), here’s the official advisory from this forum cluster:

 

Advisory 1: drive letter reassignment possible for some users if a USB drive or an SD card is inserted while performing an in-place upgrade to Version 1903

 

Problem: when performing a feature update to 1903, if a USB drive or an SD card is inserted, Windows Setup may reassign drive letters for some systems.

 

Workaround: resolved in Windows 10 Insider Preview build 18877 (20H1), which will be backported as a cumulative update to Version 1903. If a KB alert with this fix doesn’t show up and you’re offered Feature Update to Windows 10, Version 1903, then remove any USB flash drive(s) and/or SD card(s). Or better yet, do not activate Settings/Update and Security/Windows Update/Check for updates button until this is resolved.

 

Details:

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4500988/windows-update-blocked-because-of-drive-reassignment

 

Advisory 2: minimum storage requirement changed

 

Problem: until now minimum storage requirement was 16 GB for 32-bit, 20 GB for 64-bit. Various websites (including Neowin) are reporting that the minimum storage requirement is now 32 GB for both.

 

Possible cause: reserved storage.

 

Workaround: I recommend freeing up at least 40 GB so upgrade installations can be done smoothly.

 

An important note: this has nothing to do with any assistive technology (I’ll address the “blindness” and “screen readers” comment in an upcoming admin notice).

 

Cheers,

joseph


Re: Linux.

Brian Tew <briantew1951@...>
 

blinux-list@...
is for blind linux users, any ditribution.
blinux-list-subscribe@... 
to subscribe.
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Re: Linux.

Devin Prater
 

Currently, there are a few distributions, (Distros) which are still being worked on, for the time being of course, for blind or visually impaired users.

Slint is based on Slackware, and the Homepage says it is “beginner friendly” which directly opposes Slackware’s ideas of what “keep it simple stupid” implementation actually means. I have installed it, and dealing with disks and partitions isn’t something that, in my oppinion, a newbie should have to do, but what do I know. A plus to this is that you’ll get a taste of what Linux is about, tinkering, breaking things, getting a system that you almost like, and discovering that a program you use isn’t made for Linux, or even worse, that it simply isn’t available in your package manager and is a pain to build (compile yourself from source code). Another plus for this, and all other Linux Distros, is that Voxin is available, so you can use it with Emacspeak, which is a joy to use. Just, not the rest of Linux…

Accessible Coconut is a soup of changes made to Ubuntu 18.04, which, by the version number, is indeed a year out of date. I have not tried it, nor do I want to, as Ubuntu has shown itself to have few up-to-date programs, and I will not accept that. Any operating system that comes out of date out of the gate is not one for me, even if it has a few bells and penny whistles, like braille entry through the keyboard. Unless it has BrailleBlaster, which I haven’t gotten workin on Linux, it’s not good personally, nor professionally. Speaking of professionalism, that’s one thing that a lot of Linux projects, like Speechd-el, don’t have. Ugh, just listen to the sound icons they use, and compare that to the comprehensive Emacspeak ones. Okay, off the soapbox and back to distros!

Talking Arch was a great distro for advanced users, but the creator has seen the light and moved on to Single Board Computers running the ARM processor, so cannot make builds for the rest of us and make sure they work. Consequently, the latest release was around two years ago.

The F123E project, which is carried in Google so I can’t find a link right now, is for the Raspberry Pi 3B+ computers. It is menu-driven, and pretty simplistic, only having a basic text editor, Mutt, and Links, with a few other text-based applications. It is mainly made for “emerging markets” of blind people, and is good at what it does. If you get this, and the $80 Pi and case, don’t expect much, really, or you’ll be disappointed. Emacspeak can’t run on it, it seems, as some eSpeak module can’t be found, and Voxin, being just the IBM ViaVoice on life support, being Intel 32-bit, hasn’t be designed to work on ARM hardware, and I doubt it ever will. I’m not sure what the good Doctor Raman will do when ARM computers become the norm. Oh, right, stockpile Intel X86-64 laptops because nothing sounds better than ViaVoice, which is just about true compared to eSpeak.

Vinux, and Sonar, tried to merge, and failed, so they’re both dead. Debian works well, if your hardware is supported by free software drivers. If not, well, there’s Ubuntu and don’t worry about how slowly it’s updated, users don’t need that roaming release stuff right? Right?

Fedora is also a good distribution, and the “Mate Spin” is the one I’d go with if I were to try, for the sixth time or so, to be productive and enjoy Linux. Spoiler: I probably won’t try it again; freedom is great, if you’re not just going from a popular, well-supported OS to the chains of an OS where no one outside of blind people actually care about supporting blind people, and of course applications are limited, ten-fold if you need those applications to be accessible. But if you ask hardcore Linux people, you’ll get “We don’t need games, we have work to do (that being configuring Linux as far as possible, trying to scratch that accessibility itch as well as possible), and if it’s not on Linux, make it yourself!”

So really, if you want something like Linux which you can actually be productive with, I’d suggest getting a Mac, or using the Windows Subsystem for Linux. Sure, you’re limited pretty much to terminal applications, but most blind people using the Linux GUI don’t use anything much else than Gedit (Notepad with spell checking), LibreOffice, Firefox, and Thunderbird. Some use Chromium, with Chromevox of course, which isn’t even supported by the developers on non-ChromeOS systems, because of course Orca, the Linux GUI screen reader, doesn’t work with Chrome.

In short, if you have an old computer laying around ready to die, sure, put Linux on it and marvel at its complexities, and the sweet call of freedom… with the chains of accessibility deficiencies attached of course. This isn’t to say that Linux is completely bad, Emacs and Emacspeak are beautiful tools, which are effective and complex, it's just that when you get outside of Emacs with Emacspeak, it's like you’ve left civilization, and now must wander the wilderness. Emacs, and Emacspeak, both work well on the Mac, though, so I don’t have the wilderness to wander through. Now if Emacspeak worked well on Windows, that’d be even better, although Visual Studio Code is proving to be an okay substitute.



On Apr 26, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Billy Inglis <william.inglis72@...> wrote:

hi guys, right i have heard that Vinux is now finished, but is there a mailing list for the Linux platform?.
--
All The Best
Billy





problem with headphones

Gary Metzler
 

Hi All,

 

I just updated to win10 1903.  I am using an hp laptop.  I use nvda.  Since I updated I get very low volume out of my headphone jack.  I am using realtech sound card.  I updated the drivers with no luck on the volume.  The update was successful.  Can anyone help me solve this problem?  Thanks for any help.


locked Re: Microsoft Confirms Windows 10 May Update Won't Work If You Have USB drives connected

 

Hi everyone,

This is your head list representative speaking... I'm still recovering from a week of speech competitions.

I'm taking this thread "offline" i.e. locking it until the leadership team can get a grasp of what exactly happened. If there are important things to be communicated, I'll do so once I go through all messages in this thread and other recent ones (and if so, expect an admin notice from me in the next few hours).

Cheers,

Joseph


locked Re: Microsoft Confirms Windows 10 May Update Won't Work If You Have USB drives connected

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 
Edited

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:57 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
This means I can't get the update until this bug is fixed as my speech comes through a USB audio device. If I disconnect this, I won't hear speech.
No, it does not.   I have stated, repeatedly, exactly what the tech bulletin says. It is less than a full page long and states explicitly:   USB STORAGE devices.   Not printers, not sound cards, not hubs, not scanners - STORAGE devices.

Even the title of this topic is correct in that it uses the term "drives," AKA storage devices.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

     The specialist knows more and more about less and less and finally knows everything about nothing.

             ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


locked Re: Microsoft Confirms Windows 10 May Update Won't Work If You Have USB drives connected

Roger Stewart
 

This means I can't get the update until this bug is fixed as my speech comes through a USB audio device. If I disconnect this, I won't hear speech.
Roger









On 4/26/2019 1:01 AM, Tom wrote:

 

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

I’ll either pull all the USB device cables out   of the sockets on the back of the computer or maybe just remove the cables from where they plug into the device. This way there is no device connected, just some empty USB cables which is much easier to insert after the update than trying to find the cables and sockets on the back of the computer afterwards.

 

Tom

   

 

Sent: Friday, 26 April 2019 3:20 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Microsoft Confirms Windows 10 May Update Won't Work If You Have USB drives connected

 

Even in standby it is listening. Unless it is powered down completely via a physicle switch or unplugged it can interfere.
On 4/25/2019 10:15 PM, Tom wrote:

OK, here is a dumb question.

 

When MS refers to having a USB device like a printer or external hard drive connected,does this refer to only when the device is powered up  or does it mean any USB device regardless of whether it is powered on or not?

 

Thanks

Tom

 

 



Re: formatting outlook

 

If you mean how do you get to the folder list from your Inbox then it is now Control + Shift + Tab or Shift + F6 also works.
If you are in your folder list and decide you want to go back to the same mailbox where you just came from you have to press F6, enter or tab won't work.
If you want to go to a different folder, e.g. the Deleted Items folder, just go to it in the folder list and press enter.
You can of course also use Control + Y to bring up the folder list. If you want to go to folders like calendars, Contacts or Notes you have to do it via Control + Y, if you simply go to your folder list with Control + Shift + Tab you won't find Contacts because it is now its own section under People and there is also a Calendar section. You can get to them by pressing Shift + F6 twice from the inbox, it puts you on Mail, if you arrow right you get to Calendars, then People, then Tasks and lastly something called "Navigation Menu Button", not entirely sure what that does.

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Martin Nemecek
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 7:34 AM
To: windows 10 and jaws (win10@win10.groups.io) <win10@win10.groups.io>
Subject: [win10] formatting outlook

when I ran windows 7 and outlook I could make my email in this order in box shift tab address book and shift tab to the folders.
In windows 10 and jaws 2019 most recent up date and outlook 2016teen how can I due this. Martin


Re: Display settings keeps coming up on startup of windows

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

This is also strongly suggestive that you still have Fast Startup enabled, as the behavior on Restart differs from firing up from a prior shut down.  Were I you, I would disable it:

Control Panel, Power Options, Choose what the Power Button Does Link, Change settings that are currently unavailable link, uncheck Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended) checkbox, Save Changes button then OK your way out.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

     The specialist knows more and more about less and less and finally knows everything about nothing.

             ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: Display settings keeps coming up on startup of windows

 

Try this:

Open Control Panel

Go to Ease of Access Centre

After you press enter to open the category you should hear “Always scan this section” and I assume in your case this might be checked. Uncheck it and see if that fixes the issue.

After  you uncheck it, just close Control Panel with Alt + F4, there is no OK button to press or anything like that.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 7:15 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Display settings keeps coming up on startup of windows

 

Hi Everyone,

Every morning when I turn my computer on the settings for the display is on my screen. This display dialog box that come up is Windows key + I then ease of access and then display. This is the settings display that keeps coming up when I start my computer in the morning. It never comes up when I do a restart. I cannot find anywhere to turn this off. Anyone have any ideas as to why this settings dialog comes up?

Mr. Ed  


formatting outlook

Martin Nemecek
 

when I ran windows 7 and outlook I could make my email in this order in box shift tab address book and shift tab to the folders.
In windows 10 and jaws 2019 most recent up date and outlook 2016teen how can I due this. Martin


Display settings keeps coming up on startup of windows

Mr. Ed
 

Hi Everyone,

Every morning when I turn my computer on the settings for the display is on my screen. This display dialog box that come up is Windows key + I then ease of access and then display. This is the settings display that keeps coming up when I start my computer in the morning. It never comes up when I do a restart. I cannot find anywhere to turn this off. Anyone have any ideas as to why this settings dialog comes up?

Mr. Ed