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5 FREE PROGRAMS That Should NEVER Be On ANY PC!

leonard morris
 

What’s your opinion on this Youtube video? BTW, I did remove IE11 since I no longer am a user.

https://youtu.be/wAs1cbNzExA




Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: Nimer Jaber will assume most administrator duties, effective July 28, 2021 #AdminNotice

 

Hello WinAccess family,

The following is a continuation of leadership transition plan:

This is to notify you that Nimer Jaber, the incoming forum owner, will assume most administrator duties effective July 28, 2021. The only things I will do as outgoing forum admin are pay for premium group status and to manage Windows release lifecycle announcements such as new Insider Preview build and cumulative update (KB alert) posts. I will formally resign from owner position (and thus hand the forum cluster to Nimer) during the week Windows 11 is released to the general public (early as sometime in October), at which point I will transition to being a specialized topics manager (listed as a mod) with no power over admin decisions. I will still publish a final State of the List post on July 29th as your outgoing forum owner to celebrate six years of Windows 10 era and to offer things the membership can do to prepare the wider world to meet Windows 11 and beyond.

Thank you for allowing me to lead this forum for the last seven years – starting from Freelists in October 2014, then moving to Groups.IO in October 2015. Please encourage Nimer as he assumes admin duties from next week, with the formal handover in the fall.

Cheers,

Joseph


Notice: subject line changed to WinAccess, a note about forum name and nature of admin decisions #AdminNotice

 

Hello everyone,

A few things from the outgoing forum owner/head list representative about recent feedback sent to the leadership team:

  • Subject line: Nimer and I received at least two comments about email subject line. After some discussion, it was decided that the forum subject line will be “WinAccess”. This is in consideration for users of speech synthesizers and to better communicate what the forum is about.
  • A note about forum name: shortly after the new forum name was announced last week, Nimer and I received comments about the process used to select the compromise between top choices. It was done that way because there was no provision in the poll discussion to take ties into account (for a poll like this, a single round is held, and ties are possible). After looking at how to best represent both choices, we (Nimer and I) agreed that a compromise is the best option.
  • About the nature of leadership decisions: it was pointed out that the forum is not really a democracy. My personal philosophy regarding forum administration is that members should have a greater say in the direction of the forum, including participating in polls and proposal process. Although the forum leadership team have a final say on specific matters such as forum names, we accept and take user feedback into account, including accepting and thinking about poll results. Ultimately, a key component of a forum like ours (with over 600 folks present) is member participation, including giving feedback and influencing the direction of our forum cluster for years to come (this is why I encourage proposals and comments). As for how Nimer (our incoming forum owner/head list representative) will make his leadership decision based on your comments, it is up to him – he is not Joseph Lee, and once he officially succeeds me this fall, I will minimize my involvement in admin-level decisions (Nimer asked me to stay as a specialized topics manager/mod in charge of builds and cumulative update announcements, and in turn, I will continue to pay so our forum cluster can remain a premium group).

Hope this helps. Again if you would like to send a love letter to forum leadership people, feel free to send it to winaccess+owner@winaccess.groups.io.

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: contacts with outlook mobile

Gary Metzler
 

Thanks for your suggestions.  I’m probably going to leave things the way they are.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 11:15 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] contacts with outlook mobile

 

Hi Gary,

 

You mauy of course not want to change your email address, but if you were to sign up for an Outlook.com email address and set it up on your PC and Android phone all your contacts would automatically sync as Outlook.com uses the Exchange Active Sync protocol. In my opinion this is an easier and more user friendly protocol than IMAP because everything syncs pretty seamlessly, emails, calendars, contacts, Notes in Outlook etc. I also find that switching to an Outlook.com or, for that matter gmail.com email if you prefer Google/IMAP is a good thing in the long run because you never have to worry about changing your email again should you decide to change your internet service provider. If you at some point find it benefitial to move away from Comcast then your Comcast email I assume would no longer be yours to use, but if you already have an Outlook.com or gmail.com email this makes no difference. If I get a new computer or iPhone I don't even worry about my emails and contacts or backing them up, I simply set up a new account, enter my Outlook.com email and password and after a little while when everything has synced everything is there just as it was on my old device; no installing iCloud Control Panel or anything like that.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 3:43 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] contacts with outlook mobile

 

Hi Cher,

 

Thanks for your response.  I use an android phone.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cher
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 4:03 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] contacts with outlook mobile

 

You don’t even need to have Office 365 on the phone. Just install the iCloud control panel, then tick the box for contacts. All your Outlook contacts stored on the PC will now reside in an Outlook folder called iCloud. Within this, there is a Contacts folder which will list all your contacts. From now on, any contact you add to Outlook’s>iCloud>contacts will immediately sync with your phone. Just close (Don’t sign out) of iCloud control panel or your synced contacts will disappear

 

Cher

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 9:12 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: [winaccess] contacts with outlook mobile

 

Hi All,

 

I am using the latest win 10 nvda and Microsoft 365.  I have all the office apps on my phone and was wondering if there is any way to use my contacts from my pc to my phone?

 

 

 

Regards, Gary KN4OX

Sendto: gmtravel@...

 


Re: contacts with outlook mobile

 

Hi Gary,

 

You mauy of course not want to change your email address, but if you were to sign up for an Outlook.com email address and set it up on your PC and Android phone all your contacts would automatically sync as Outlook.com uses the Exchange Active Sync protocol. In my opinion this is an easier and more user friendly protocol than IMAP because everything syncs pretty seamlessly, emails, calendars, contacts, Notes in Outlook etc. I also find that switching to an Outlook.com or, for that matter gmail.com email if you prefer Google/IMAP is a good thing in the long run because you never have to worry about changing your email again should you decide to change your internet service provider. If you at some point find it benefitial to move away from Comcast then your Comcast email I assume would no longer be yours to use, but if you already have an Outlook.com or gmail.com email this makes no difference. If I get a new computer or iPhone I don't even worry about my emails and contacts or backing them up, I simply set up a new account, enter my Outlook.com email and password and after a little while when everything has synced everything is there just as it was on my old device; no installing iCloud Control Panel or anything like that.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 3:43 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] contacts with outlook mobile

 

Hi Cher,

 

Thanks for your response.  I use an android phone.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cher
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 4:03 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] contacts with outlook mobile

 

You don’t even need to have Office 365 on the phone. Just install the iCloud control panel, then tick the box for contacts. All your Outlook contacts stored on the PC will now reside in an Outlook folder called iCloud. Within this, there is a Contacts folder which will list all your contacts. From now on, any contact you add to Outlook’s>iCloud>contacts will immediately sync with your phone. Just close (Don’t sign out) of iCloud control panel or your synced contacts will disappear

 

Cher

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 9:12 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: [winaccess] contacts with outlook mobile

 

Hi All,

 

I am using the latest win 10 nvda and Microsoft 365.  I have all the office apps on my phone and was wondering if there is any way to use my contacts from my pc to my phone?

 

 

 

Regards, Gary KN4OX

Sendto: gmtravel@...

 


Re: contacts with outlook mobile

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Cher,

 

Thanks for your response.  I use an android phone.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cher
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 4:03 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] contacts with outlook mobile

 

You don’t even need to have Office 365 on the phone. Just install the iCloud control panel, then tick the box for contacts. All your Outlook contacts stored on the PC will now reside in an Outlook folder called iCloud. Within this, there is a Contacts folder which will list all your contacts. From now on, any contact you add to Outlook’s>iCloud>contacts will immediately sync with your phone. Just close (Don’t sign out) of iCloud control panel or your synced contacts will disappear

 

Cher

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 9:12 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: [winaccess] contacts with outlook mobile

 

Hi All,

 

I am using the latest win 10 nvda and Microsoft 365.  I have all the office apps on my phone and was wondering if there is any way to use my contacts from my pc to my phone?

 

 

 

Regards, Gary KN4OX

Sendto: gmtravel@...

 


Re: contacts with outlook mobile

Cher
 

You don’t even need to have Office 365 on the phone. Just install the iCloud control panel, then tick the box for contacts. All your Outlook contacts stored on the PC will now reside in an Outlook folder called iCloud. Within this, there is a Contacts folder which will list all your contacts. From now on, any contact you add to Outlook’s>iCloud>contacts will immediately sync with your phone. Just close (Don’t sign out) of iCloud control panel or your synced contacts will disappear

 

Cher

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 9:12 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: [winaccess] contacts with outlook mobile

 

Hi All,

 

I am using the latest win 10 nvda and Microsoft 365.  I have all the office apps on my phone and was wondering if there is any way to use my contacts from my pc to my phone?

 

 

 

Regards, Gary KN4OX

Sendto: gmtravel@...

 


Re: No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Jim Weiss
 

If the start up sound is enabled it will play if fast start up is enabled or disabled.  With fast startup turned off I noticed on my system the startup sound is choppy.
Jim Weiss



On Jul 21, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Loy <loyrg2845@...> wrote:

I am running Windows 10 Pro 21h1 and don't have fast start up enabled and the startup sound plays.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

I have both fast start up turned on and the windows start up sound turned on and it does play with fast start up enabled.


On Jul 21, 2021, at 2:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

 
Especially since you can easily enable the startup sound by going to your Windows sound scheme and checking he box to play it. Of course you also have to disable fast startup or it won't play.
From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io<winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 11:00 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10
Great guacamole!  Indeed.
A new p c!  that’s a lot of   refried beans, just to hear a startup sound.
From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io<winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: July 19, 2021 10:59 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10
Well holy moly great guacomolie, that's what I've been waiting for since Widows 10 came out, now I'm ready to get me a Widows 11 computer!  LOL  LOL  Sorry  just couldn't resist.
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Hi,
At least the good news is that Windows 11 brought back startup sound, although it is softer than in past releases.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io<winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:46 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Hi.

I have a Bluetooth speaker that I use with my laptop. For me, the way I know Windows has shut down is my speaker makes a sound indicating it's no longer paired with the PC. If I'm restarting, the sound that lets me know it's paired is heard.

Works for me.

Kevin and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io<winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 12:41 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

We have wanted that "windows logoff" sound to work ever since 2015 when windows ten was brand new.
I even received a patch from MS accessability which didn't work probably for the same reason you outline in your message.
Having a "windows shut down" message would let us know when windows was rebooting as well because it'd have to shut down before, etc. :)


Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 7/19/2021 7:28 AM, Ján Kulik wrote:
> Hi all.
> In one Czechoslovak discussion forum, one member published an article 
> on how to set the sound to play when the user logs out of the system 
> or decides to shut down or restart the computer so that the sound 
> informs about events.
> In the HKEY_CURRENT_USER AppEvents EventLabels registers, I found the 
> following registry keys to edit them: SystemExist, WindowsLogoff, 
> WindowsLogon, and WindowsUnlock.
> These 4 registry keys had a value of 1, which just needed to be 
> adjusted to 0. Once I did, the given event sound, such as the windows 
> shutdown event, should play. Unfortunately, it doesn't work even if 
> all sound events are active and playing system sounds, only when I 
> shut down the system and assign a sound to it that shuts down windows 
> will not play at all, while I tested it with the keyboard shortcut alt
> + t. What actually happened in Windows 10? Is it true that some
> operating system updates have prevented them from doing so? Then how 
> do we blind find that Windows has shut down when it's not playing sound?
> Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.1110
> 















Re: Remote desktop connection usage under windows 10, using NVDA - seems to work well

valiant8086
 

Hi.


If you can get a port opened on the target computer, you can let it self host an NVDA remote server and then connect to it directly from elsewhere. This bypasses any servers and is ridiculously responsive as a result. To set NVDA to do this just choose the host control server option as the first item in the connect or options dialogues. The options dialogue one is allowing you to configure NVDA to always connect to a control server or set one up at startup. Then you just need to forward a port from the router and whatnot. If RDP worked I assume you could do that with NVDA as well. VPN will probably make you more laggy though, they usually do.

On 7/20/2021 2:48 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Just wanted to thank Russ for recommending this feature/solution.


As in, while could connet to the remote PC using NVDARemote, there was a bit of a lag due to it passing data through the remote server, but, after got I.T. guys to set up a VPN connection to office network, and, after set up my own little python applet to save the IP address/host name for my office PC via another website each time it booted up, last night when connected to VPN and then to office machine from home PC, using remote desktop connection, it actually worked pretty much perfectly.


Was also nice to find the disconnect option under the sign out or shutdown options submenu of the windows+X quick access menu then which let me revert to actual home desktop PC easily, since had not yet looked into anything like keyboard shortcuts to switch between remote and local, etc.


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."




Re: No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Loy
 


I am running Windows 10 Pro 21h1 and don't have fast start up enabled and the startup sound plays.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

I have both fast start up turned on and the windows start up sound turned on and it does play with fast start up enabled.


On Jul 21, 2021, at 2:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



Especially since you can easily enable the startup sound by going to your Windows sound scheme and checking he box to play it. Of course you also have to disable fast startup or it won't play.

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 11:00 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Great guacamole!  Indeed.

A new p c!  that’s a lot of   refried beans, just to hear a startup sound.

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: July 19, 2021 10:59 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Well holy moly great guacomolie, that's what I've been waiting for since Widows 10 came out, now I'm ready to get me a Widows 11 computer!  LOL  LOL  Sorry  just couldn't resist.

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:53 AM

Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Hi,
At least the good news is that Windows 11 brought back startup sound, although it is softer than in past releases.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:46 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Hi.

I have a Bluetooth speaker that I use with my laptop. For me, the way I know Windows has shut down is my speaker makes a sound indicating it's no longer paired with the PC. If I'm restarting, the sound that lets me know it's paired is heard.

Works for me.

Kevin and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 12:41 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

We have wanted that "windows logoff" sound to work ever since 2015 when windows ten was brand new.
I even received a patch from MS accessability which didn't work probably for the same reason you outline in your message.
Having a "windows shut down" message would let us know when windows was rebooting as well because it'd have to shut down before, etc. :)


Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 7/19/2021 7:28 AM, Ján Kulik wrote:
> Hi all.
> In one Czechoslovak discussion forum, one member published an article
> on how to set the sound to play when the user logs out of the system
> or decides to shut down or restart the computer so that the sound
> informs about events.
> In the HKEY_CURRENT_USER AppEvents EventLabels registers, I found the
> following registry keys to edit them: SystemExist, WindowsLogoff,
> WindowsLogon, and WindowsUnlock.
> These 4 registry keys had a value of 1, which just needed to be
> adjusted to 0. Once I did, the given event sound, such as the windows
> shutdown event, should play. Unfortunately, it doesn't work even if
> all sound events are active and playing system sounds, only when I
> shut down the system and assign a sound to it that shuts down windows
> will not play at all, while I tested it with the keyboard shortcut alt
> + t. What actually happened in Windows 10? Is it true that some
> operating system updates have prevented them from doing so? Then how
> do we blind find that Windows has shut down when it's not playing sound?
> Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.1110
>














Re: No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Jim Weiss
 

I have both fast start up turned on and the windows start up sound turned on and it does play with fast start up enabled.


On Jul 21, 2021, at 2:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



Especially since you can easily enable the startup sound by going to your Windows sound scheme and checking he box to play it. Of course you also have to disable fast startup or it won't play.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 11:00 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Great guacamole!  Indeed.

A new p c!  that’s a lot of   refried beans, just to hear a startup sound.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: July 19, 2021 10:59 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Well holy moly great guacomolie, that's what I've been waiting for since Widows 10 came out, now I'm ready to get me a Widows 11 computer!  LOL  LOL  Sorry  just couldn't resist.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:53 AM

Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Hi,
At least the good news is that Windows 11 brought back startup sound, although it is softer than in past releases.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:46 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Hi.

I have a Bluetooth speaker that I use with my laptop. For me, the way I know Windows has shut down is my speaker makes a sound indicating it's no longer paired with the PC. If I'm restarting, the sound that lets me know it's paired is heard.

Works for me.

Kevin and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 12:41 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

We have wanted that "windows logoff" sound to work ever since 2015 when windows ten was brand new.
I even received a patch from MS accessability which didn't work probably for the same reason you outline in your message.
Having a "windows shut down" message would let us know when windows was rebooting as well because it'd have to shut down before, etc. :)


Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 7/19/2021 7:28 AM, Ján Kulik wrote:
> Hi all.
> In one Czechoslovak discussion forum, one member published an article
> on how to set the sound to play when the user logs out of the system
> or decides to shut down or restart the computer so that the sound
> informs about events.
> In the HKEY_CURRENT_USER AppEvents EventLabels registers, I found the
> following registry keys to edit them: SystemExist, WindowsLogoff,
> WindowsLogon, and WindowsUnlock.
> These 4 registry keys had a value of 1, which just needed to be
> adjusted to 0. Once I did, the given event sound, such as the windows
> shutdown event, should play. Unfortunately, it doesn't work even if
> all sound events are active and playing system sounds, only when I
> shut down the system and assign a sound to it that shuts down windows
> will not play at all, while I tested it with the keyboard shortcut alt
> + t. What actually happened in Windows 10? Is it true that some
> operating system updates have prevented them from doing so? Then how
> do we blind find that Windows has shut down when it's not playing sound?
> Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.1110
>














Re: No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Especially since you can easily enable the startup sound by going to your Windows sound scheme and checking he box to play it. Of course you also have to disable fast startup or it won't play.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 11:00 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Great guacamole!  Indeed.

A new p c!  that’s a lot of   refried beans, just to hear a startup sound.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: July 19, 2021 10:59 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Well holy moly great guacomolie, that's what I've been waiting for since Widows 10 came out, now I'm ready to get me a Widows 11 computer!  LOL  LOL  Sorry  just couldn't resist.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:53 AM

Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Hi,
At least the good news is that Windows 11 brought back startup sound, although it is softer than in past releases.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:46 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Hi.

I have a Bluetooth speaker that I use with my laptop. For me, the way I know Windows has shut down is my speaker makes a sound indicating it's no longer paired with the PC. If I'm restarting, the sound that lets me know it's paired is heard.

Works for me.

Kevin and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 12:41 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

We have wanted that "windows logoff" sound to work ever since 2015 when windows ten was brand new.
I even received a patch from MS accessability which didn't work probably for the same reason you outline in your message.
Having a "windows shut down" message would let us know when windows was rebooting as well because it'd have to shut down before, etc. :)


Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 7/19/2021 7:28 AM, Ján Kulik wrote:
> Hi all.
> In one Czechoslovak discussion forum, one member published an article
> on how to set the sound to play when the user logs out of the system
> or decides to shut down or restart the computer so that the sound
> informs about events.
> In the HKEY_CURRENT_USER AppEvents EventLabels registers, I found the
> following registry keys to edit them: SystemExist, WindowsLogoff,
> WindowsLogon, and WindowsUnlock.
> These 4 registry keys had a value of 1, which just needed to be
> adjusted to 0. Once I did, the given event sound, such as the windows
> shutdown event, should play. Unfortunately, it doesn't work even if
> all sound events are active and playing system sounds, only when I
> shut down the system and assign a sound to it that shuts down windows
> will not play at all, while I tested it with the keyboard shortcut alt
> + t. What actually happened in Windows 10? Is it true that some
> operating system updates have prevented them from doing so? Then how
> do we blind find that Windows has shut down when it's not playing sound?
> Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.1110
>














Re: HoWindows 11 Beta?

 

Hi,

At least three times a month. If the preview channel model holds true for Windows 11 just as in Windows 10 era, then you’ll get preview cumulative updates through beta and release preview channels. Not only that, you will also receive regular Update Tuesday updates and the preview update that goes out to everyone. At least once a year, you will receive new Windows 11 feature updates.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 2:12 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: [winaccess] HoWindows 11 Beta?

 

If I subscribe to the Beta channel in Windows 11  Insider, how often do they send out updates?


HoWindows 11 Beta?

Loy
 

If I subscribe to the Beta channel in Windows 11  Insider, how often do they send out updates?


Re: No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Immigrant
 

No, I am not tampering with the registry.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 7:24 AM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

The startup sound cannot be customized without doing it in the registery, and that’s not recommended not a good idea anyway!

 

email is golden!!!

Kevin Lee

 

From: Immigrant via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:05 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Yes, I know. I have totally customized my Windows 10 sounds, except for the startup sound. I was just curious, I am always curious about sound effects in a new Windows OS.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 10:09 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

You know you can customize these sounds

 

email is golden!!!

Kevin Lee

 

From: Immigrant via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 2:25 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc sounds are played in windows 10

 

Are they better than under Windows 10? And, are there sound schemes like in Windows 7? Or is there just one default set of sounds?

 

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From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 3:14 PM

To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io

Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Hi,

Nope - completely different. In fact, most system sounds were replaced.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

-----Original Message-----

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 12:09 PM

To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io

Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

I wonder if the sound in windows 11 is the same as it is in windows 7, 8, 8.1 and 10? :)

 

 

Curtis Delzer

HS

K 6 V F O

Rialto, CA

 

curtis@...

 

On 7/19/2021 9:53 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

> Hi,

> At least the good news is that Windows 11 brought back startup sound, although it is softer than in past releases.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On

> Behalf Of Kevin Minor

> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:46 AM

> To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played

> in windows 10

>

> Hi.

>

> I have a Bluetooth speaker that I use with my laptop. For me, the way I know Windows has shut down is my speaker makes a sound indicating it's no longer paired with the PC. If I'm restarting, the sound that lets me know it's paired is heard.

>

> Works for me.

>

> Kevin and Jilly

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On

> Behalf Of Curtis Delzer

> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 12:41 PM

> To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played

> in windows 10

>

> We have wanted that "windows logoff" sound to work ever since 2015 when windows ten was brand new.

> I even received a patch from MS accessability which didn't work probably for the same reason you outline in your message

> Having a "windows shut down" message would let us know when windows

> was rebooting as well because it'd have to shut down before, etc. :)

>

>

> Curtis Delzer

> HS

> K 6 V F O

> Rialto, CA

>

> curtis@...

>

> On 7/19/2021 7:28 AM, Ján Kulik wrote:

>> Hi all.

>> In one Czechoslovak discussion forum, one member published an article

>> on how to set the sound to play when the user logs out of the system

>> or decides to shut down or restart the computer so that the sound

>> informs about events.

>> In the HKEY_CURRENT_USER AppEvents EventLabels registers, I found the

>> following registry keys to edit them: SystemExist, WindowsLogoff,

>> WindowsLogon, and WindowsUnlock.

>> These 4 registry keys had a value of 1, which just needed to be

>> adjusted to 0. Once I did, the given event sound, such as the windows

>> shutdown event, should play. Unfortunately, it doesn't work even if

>> all sound events are active and playing system sounds, only when I

>> shut down the system and assign a sound to it that shuts down windows

>> will not play at all, while I tested it with the keyboard shortcut

>> alt

>> + t. What actually happened in Windows 10? Is it true that some

>> operating system updates have prevented them from doing so? Then how

>> do we blind find that Windows has shut down when it's not playing sound?

>> Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.1110

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Re: Remote desktop connection usage under windows 10, using NVDA - seems to work well

Russell James
 

That is great news thanks for sharing!

If you enable the clipboard feature in RDP I think you might find that also to be very helpful! :-)
I use that feature a lot to transfer things between the remote machine and my local machine like text and files..

RDP has been around for a long time and has many features and support for different levels of network performance

Russ


JAWS 2021.2107.12 released #jaws #win11

 

Hi all, mostly for JAWS users,

Folks subscribed to JAWS list hosted on Groups.IO may have seen a post from Mike about JAWS 2021.2107.12 release, but since one of the changes involve Windows 11, I believe it is worth talking about it:

What's New in JAWS 2021 Screen Reading Software (freedomscientific.com)

 

The change for Windows 11:

• Resolved an issue with JAWS not reading search results on the Windows 11 Start Screen.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Special notice: incoming owner is also part of the leadership team, too #AdminNotice

 

Hello WinAccess family,

Before I hand the list to our incoming rep (Nimer Jaber), a special notice regarding the leadership transition stemming from a recent post:

I was alerted to a post which went out without full consultation of the leadership team – turns out the member wrote to me alone. I take full responsibility for this mistake.

To avoid repetition of this, I would like to ask that anyone wishing to talk to the leadership team for anything should use the owner address (winaccess+owner@winaccess.groups.io) so that both I (current owner) and Nimer (incoming owner) can be notified. This will be important for the next few weeks while leadership transition takes place.

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

Kevin
 

The startup sound cannot be customized without doing it in the registery, and that’s not recommended not a good idea anyway!

 

email is golden!!!

Kevin Lee

 

From: Immigrant via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:05 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Yes, I know. I have totally customized my Windows 10 sounds, except for the startup sound. I was just curious, I am always curious about sound effects in a new Windows OS.

 

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 10:09 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

You know you can customize these sounds

 

email is golden!!!

Kevin Lee

 

From: Immigrant via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 2:25 PM
To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io
Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Are they better than under Windows 10? And, are there sound schemes like in Windows 7? Or is there just one default set of sounds?

 

-----Original Message-----

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 3:14 PM

To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io

Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

Hi,

Nope - completely different. In fact, most system sounds were replaced.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

-----Original Message-----

From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 12:09 PM

To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io

Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played in windows 10

 

I wonder if the sound in windows 11 is the same as it is in windows 7, 8, 8.1 and 10? :)

 

 

Curtis Delzer

HS

K 6 V F O

Rialto, CA

 

curtis@...

 

On 7/19/2021 9:53 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

> Hi,

> At least the good news is that Windows 11 brought back startup sound, although it is softer than in past releases.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On

> Behalf Of Kevin Minor

> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:46 AM

> To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played

> in windows 10

>

> Hi.

>

> I have a Bluetooth speaker that I use with my laptop. For me, the way I know Windows has shut down is my speaker makes a sound indicating it's no longer paired with the PC. If I'm restarting, the sound that lets me know it's paired is heard.

>

> Works for me.

>

> Kevin and Jilly

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io <winaccess@winaccess.groups.io> On

> Behalf Of Curtis Delzer

> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 12:41 PM

> To: winaccess@winaccess.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [winaccess] No shutdown, logoff, etc. sounds are played

> in windows 10

>

> We have wanted that "windows logoff" sound to work ever since 2015 when windows ten was brand new.

> I even received a patch from MS accessability which didn't work probably for the same reason you outline in your message

> Having a "windows shut down" message would let us know when windows

> was rebooting as well because it'd have to shut down before, etc. :)

>

>

> Curtis Delzer

> HS

> K 6 V F O

> Rialto, CA

>

> curtis@...

>

> On 7/19/2021 7:28 AM, Ján Kulik wrote:

>> Hi all.

>> In one Czechoslovak discussion forum, one member published an article

>> on how to set the sound to play when the user logs out of the system

>> or decides to shut down or restart the computer so that the sound

>> informs about events.

>> In the HKEY_CURRENT_USER AppEvents EventLabels registers, I found the

>> following registry keys to edit them: SystemExist, WindowsLogoff,

>> WindowsLogon, and WindowsUnlock.

>> These 4 registry keys had a value of 1, which just needed to be

>> adjusted to 0. Once I did, the given event sound, such as the windows

>> shutdown event, should play. Unfortunately, it doesn't work even if

>> all sound events are active and playing system sounds, only when I

>> shut down the system and assign a sound to it that shuts down windows

>> will not play at all, while I tested it with the keyboard shortcut

>> alt

>> + t. What actually happened in Windows 10? Is it true that some

>> operating system updates have prevented them from doing so? Then how

>> do we blind find that Windows has shut down when it's not playing sound?

>> Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.1110

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Remote desktop connection usage under windows 10, using NVDA - seems to work well

Jacob Kruger
 

Just wanted to thank Russ for recommending this feature/solution.


As in, while could connet to the remote PC using NVDARemote, there was a bit of a lag due to it passing data through the remote server, but, after got I.T. guys to set up a VPN connection to office network, and, after set up my own little python applet to save the IP address/host name for my office PC via another website each time it booted up, last night when connected to VPN and then to office machine from home PC, using remote desktop connection, it actually worked pretty much perfectly.


Was also nice to find the disconnect option under the sign out or shutdown options submenu of the windows+X quick access menu then which let me revert to actual home desktop PC easily, since had not yet looked into anything like keyboard shortcuts to switch between remote and local, etc.


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
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