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Win10 Forum policies letter, Monday, 1 August 2016 #cal-notice

Win10 Calendar <noreply@...>
 

Invitation:
Win10 Forum policies letter

When:
Monday, 1 August 2016

Description:

Dear Win10 forum subscriber:

Welcome to Win10, a central forum for screen reader users of Windows 10 from Microsoft. My name is Joseph Lee, the current head list representative for Win10 mailing list, and on behalf of other Win10 members, I would like to welcome you to the world of Windows 10 and to our forum.

As you take flight on Win10, please make sure to go over our forum guidelines, list addresses, procedures and membership contract.

List addresses:

  • Post a message: win10@win10.groups.io
  • Subscription: win10+subscribe@groups.io
  • Leaving the list: win10+unsubscribe@groups.io
  • General help on list options: win10+help@groups.io
  • Contacting forum leadership team: win10+owner@groups.io

Our list website is at: https://win10.groups.io/g/win10

Forum organization and focus groups

As Windows 10 is a vast operating system with many feature sets and used for various purposes, our Win10 forum maintains a number of subgroups (hereby termed "focus groups"). Each focus group is geared towards topics related to a specific area of Windows 10, such as Windows Insider program and others, overseen by a focus group chair and open to members of Win10 list to join.

Below is a list of currently active focus groups:

  • Windows Insiders: A focus group for members of Windows Insider program, covering build announcements, screen reader accessibility and so on. Visit https://win10.groups.io/g/Insiders for more information.
  • List Matters and administration: This subgroup is dedicated to discussion of list policies and overall direction of the list. Visit https://win10.groups.io/g/ListMatters for more information.
  • Mobile (aka Lumivia): This subgroup is dedicated to discussing Windows 10 Mobile and devices powered by it. Visit https://win10.groups.io/g/mobile for more information.

List guidelines and membership contract

As a member of the Win10 forum and its subgroups, you agree to:

  1. Be professional, courteous, kind and respectful towards members.
  2. Post Windows 10 topics, including feature overviews, screen reader compatibility, questions and answers on apps and so on.
  3. Not post your Windows 10 product key, cracked software and licenses, Microsoft Account details and illegal software.
  4. Abide by guidelines set for the list and its subgroups.

Procedures

  • If you have to talk to a member privately, please send a direct message (offlist) to the member in question. You can do this via email or use reply to sender link found on the forum’s web interface or the link at the end of each message.
  • If you’d like to turn off a thread, use Mute this thread link provided at the end of each message.
  • If you need to report a member who you think is breaching the membership contract or guidelines, please send a message to win10+owner@groups.io and be prepared to present your case in the arbitration hearing.
  • If you have comments, suggestions or concerns regarding list policies and administration, please send an email to win10+owner@groups.io.

Membership Contract: By joining the Win10 list, you certify that you agree to abide by list guidelines. In turn, the leadership team will abide by leadership guidelines and contract, which includes being respectful, courteous and professional to you and serve you and other Win10 forum members.

Once again, welcome to Win10, and we look forward to answering your queries and learning from your expertise.

Sincerely, Win10 Leadership Team


Windows 10 Anniversary Update, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 #cal-reminder

Win10 Calendar <noreply@...>
 

Reminder:
Windows 10 Anniversary Update

When:
Tuesday, 2 August 2016

Where:
Worldwide

Description:

Windows 10 Anniversary Update (Version 1607), the next chapter in Windows 10, is scheduled to arrive on August 2, 2016. As noted by Dona Sarkar (Windows engineer and head of Windows Insider Program), not all devices will receive this major upgrade on this date and this update will be rolling out in waves. Major changes in this update include improved Edge, Cortana, Start Menu, Action Center and other apps, Settings app improvements, Edge extensions, Windows Ink, dark theme, and Windows Subsystem for Linux.

For screen reader users: any screen reader that declares support for Windows 10 are compatible, although some screen readers will require latest updates to function well with this update. The following versions are supported:

  • Narrator: built into Windows.
  • JAWS for Windows: 16.0.4350 or later (JAWS 17 or later recommended).
  • Window-Eyes: 9.3 or later (9.5 or later recommended).
  • Nonvisual Desktop Access: 2015.3 or later (2016.3 or later recommended).

View Event.


Re: windows ten and the update to narator

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I love to try to outsmart most sightlings--not all but most--especially the ones who are idiots.

On 7/31/2016 2:35 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
yeah the sighted don't know a lot of things we do.
I do enjoy it on support calls or on remote sessions or physical fixes.
Customer, I can't load my printer, or I can't do this and this.
I say coppy this file, drag it to this folder, or run this setting, do this, do that, do whatever.
The same may happen with emails etc.
File converters are fun to.
I watch the clumsy sightling as he clicks all over the screen, clicking buttons trying and sometimes failing to find the right one.
Eventually he finds himself all over the place and no idea what to do.
With a few presses I am there.
On the other side, there are those that say, oh I can do this, click here, here, here, install that, this, that, this, say yes to a bunch of things, and then um, it works burt my homepage is different and my computer is insecure and it wants me to buy a new pair of socks and all my files are incripted and I have lost all my icons.
And I go, um, you could have like asked me for the converter software or given me the file.
And you could have got the app for that for your smartphone, oh look, lets see what you have done.
You have failed at actually completing the task, you have successfully however managed to screw up most of the day with your spyware filled computer.
I have an dad like that.
I also have an uncle that tries but fails to do anything well some things.
So it can be fun and bad at the same time.
Its nice to be above the stupid sightlings sometimes.



On 31/07/2016 3:34 p.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Wow what an ordeal David. Shows you that people are still ignorant.


On 7/30/2016 11:32 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi all,
I was at Wal-Mart, and I turned on Narrator on a win10 computer. I was
navigating the computer, and the guy grabbed my hand and ask what that
noise was. He really thought that I had done something to the
computer. I explained that I was using a screen reader built in to
Windows called Narrator, and he had never heard of it either. He just
kept saying that noise! I told him that the computer was talking. I
don’t understand, he said, and turned to my wife and said that I had
broken the computer for it to be making that strange noise. My wife
told him about the assistive software on a computer, and he got the
manager, and we had to explain to the manager that I had turned on
narator. Can you believe that people are that out of touch about
accessibility. They do not even know about accessibility that is right
there, built into the computer LOL! I do not know why you could not
get Narrator working LOL!
This is so funny LOL!
David Moore (win10 list moderator)
*From:* heather albright <mailto:kd5cbl@...>
*Sent:* Saturday, July 30, 2016 10:08 PM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [win10] windows ten and the update to narator
no it was sitting on the floor at best buy and I kept doing windows
and inter and nothing! The dood did not know what narator was at all!
He was under the impression that I was going to brake the device! I
really wished we had a frys here! Heather

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Ryan Mann <mailto:rmann0581@...>
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Sent:* Saturday, July 30, 2016 8:57 PM
*Subject:* Re: [win10] windows ten and the update to narator
Were the computers on either the desktop or the lock screen? I
don't know why it wouldn't work since it has worked on every
Windows 10 computer I've used.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 30, 2016, at 9:50 PM, heather albright <kd5cbl@...
<mailto:kd5cbl@...>> wrote:

How come this did not work at the store? I thought I was going
crazy when narator did not come on when I did windows inter and
the volume was up according to the sales person! Do they turn off
narator at the stores or what! sie. Heather

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Ryan Mann <mailto:rmann0581@...>
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io <mailto:win10@win10.groups.io>
*Sent:* Saturday, July 30, 2016 8:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [win10] windows ten and the update to narator
On any computer with Windows 10 on it, you can hold down
Windows key and hit Enter to turn on narrator. After the
anniversary update for Windows 10 that is coming out in a few
days, narrator will work with built-in Windows 10 apps such
as Mail and the Microsoft Edge web browser.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 30, 2016, at 9:36 PM, heather albright
<kd5cbl@... <mailto:kd5cbl@...>> wrote:

How come narrator is not a built in screenreader with
windows! One should not have to use a third party
screenreader to access all the programs on their windows
device!
Can the knew narrator be activated without sighted
assistance when you pick up your tablet in the store and you
can say surf the web or check out the e-mail app or office?
When I pick up any i-device, i can do this with no sighted
assistance! That is why I do not have a windows device
because, i refuse to pay for a screenreader to have equal
access to a device I purchased. So because the Microsoft
store did not have a clue how to use narrator, I am asking
here weather or not it will act like an i-device in that it
will read everything on the device and access the windows
apps! Thanks, Heather


Re: I got special permission to do this from David and Joseph

 

Hi all,

This thread will be closed automatically in about 24 hours.

To clarify: this group will stay where we are (Groups.IO).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maheen
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:03 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] I got special permission to do this from David and Joseph

 

Hi everyone,

 

I have created a brand new windows 10 and jaws group on Facebook, so I would be thrilled if you could please pass it along and I talked with both Joseph and David about this and if you have any concerns or questions, without cluttering the list about it, you are more than welcome to write to me personally at:

 

David Moore said he would help out in being one of my admins, so by all means, please join. Would love to have you! Here is the URL. Looking forward to having you!

 


I got special permission to do this from David and Joseph

Maheen <maheentheniceguy@...>
 

Hi everyone,
 
I have created a brand new windows 10 and jaws group on Facebook, so I would be thrilled if you could please pass it along and I talked with both Joseph and David about this and if you have any concerns or questions, without cluttering the list about it, you are more than welcome to write to me personally at:
 
David Moore said he would help out in being one of my admins, so by all means, please join. Would love to have you! Here is the URL. Looking forward to having you!
 


FW: accessibility and azure

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

 

 

From: Scott Hanselman [mailto:scott@...]
Sent: Monday, 1 August 2016 11:20 AM
To: Marvin Hunkin
Subject: Re: accessibility and azure

 

OK, here is what I was told. This is a quote from the team.

 

"It is the top priority at the moment for Azure, along with performance.

 

The timeline goal is by end of the year to achieve a level of C (acceptable). From there we will improve the experience towards B (usability focus). It is quite aggressive of a goal, and we are fully aware of the current shortcomings."

 

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Scott Hanselman <scott@...> wrote:

I will ask about this and get back to you. 

--

Scott Hanselman


On Jul 29, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...> wrote:

Hi, I am a blind it student enrolled in a diploma of software development via http://www.upskilled.edu.au and use http://www.pluralsight.com for their content, and I use a screen reader jaws for windows from http://www.freedomscientific.com.now thehttp://manage.azure.com and the http://portal.azure.com sites are totally inaccessiable, and do not follow world wide  guidelines. Should be more headings, keyboard short cuts, and they use an application bar framework, and not really a actual list or radio ubttons but pseudo buttons. If you are not at the head of accessibility for azure, then who is, and what is your role now.

Thanks. . have forwarded my request to freedom scientific, did contact Microsoft support, and had some contact with an engineer, but waiting for the escalated matter to be fixed, they need to make their sites more html 5 and screen reader compatability.

Thanks.

consortium .



 

--

Scott Hanselman 

Donate to fight diabetes: http://hnsl.mn/fightdiabetes


windows 10 mail appRe: windows ten and the update to narator

Kevin
 

I just recently launched my windows 10 mail app went to my one and only account and jaws announced the mail account, the email address I use for it then following all that jaws announced account requires attention!
does that mean I have messages,
if it does, how do I populate the messages


Re: Where did my power button go?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Yeah, that'll work, but that still doesn't exactly answer my question.  LOL!  Smile.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] Where did my power button go?

I always use the old way. I go to the desktop or whatever, and I hit alt F4. Then, I get the same options of shutdown, sleep, we start at Cetera.

Ben

On Jul 31, 2016, at 17:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Guys, forgive me.  This probably would be better suited for the Insiders list, but I can't seem to post there.  Every time that I try, the message bounces.  Not sure why.  I've double checked, and I absolutely do have the correct address.
 
My question however is quite basic.  If anyone feels it would be in their best interest to respond off list, you're more than welcome to do so.  My e-mail is:
 
 
Anyway, here is the message I attempted to send.
 
Guys, obviously, I've been out of the loop for a while, dealing with some family personal issues and such.
 
Therefore, I confess, I'm a little bit behind on the insider stuff.  I'm in the fast ring, but I've not booted up this laptop which is in that fast ring in a while now.
 
Today, I just turned on the system, and wow!  Things look different than what I recall, but I can't quite place in what way.
 
The start menu looks a little different.  It used to be with JAWS 17, and with NVDA both, I could hit the windows key, bring the start window up, up arrow once to all programs, then up arrow one more time and I'd land on the power button.  Pressing it would take me to the context menu where I could then choose restart, shutdown, etc.
 
Now, when I up arrow once, I still see all programs, but if I up arrow again, I can't totally tell where exactly it's going.  It definitely isn't taking me to the power button anymore though.  So, the million dollar question:  where the heck diddit go>
 
Chris.


Head List Representative's announcement: mannerisms do matter, MCT thread locked until further notice #AdminNotice

 

Dear members of the Win10 forum,

 

It was reported to the moderators that we had possibly impolite messages on this forum for the past few hours. I’ve convened an arbitration hearing between involved parties in hopes of finding out what’s going on and resolve this issue. In the meantime, MCT thread has been suspended until further notice, and on behalf of other leaders and members, I’d like to gently remind folks that mannerisms do matter on a public place like this.

 

If you have any comments on what’s happened, please contact forum leaders at win10+owner@groups.io.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Anniversary Media Creation Tool

 

Hi,

I’ll address this and other recent ones soon (I’ll send a private message to the parties involved).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:00 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool

 

Anyway, let's not keep feeding the fire.  It was rude, yes, but life goes on.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

 

clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 8:48 PM

Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool

 

BUT REALLY THE list moderator/S CAN BE AS NASTY OR AS NICE AS THEY PLEASE!

WHAT A DOUBLE STANDARD!

 

From: mk360

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:27 PM

Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool

 

I agree. that was unnecesary.

Regards,
mk.

El 31/07/2016 a las 19:16, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribió:

Totally totally agree.  That was really unpolite!

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

 

clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:36 PM

Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool

 

I'm sure there could've been a nicer, less snarky, sarcastic way of saying that.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:

Its plain for all to see that you can't read e-mail as this question has been addressed not only by list members but by a healthful article on the subject sent to the list a couple of days ago.

 

 

 

On 1/08/2016 2:18 AM, James Robinson wrote:

Hello list!

 

After the anniversary version comes out, will there be a place to get a new media creation tool that we can put on a thumb drive/CD/DVD to upgrade win7/81 machines to Win10?  Is the file I recently downloaded for continued upgrade possibility from the new microsoft win10 site for upgrade to current win10 or does it contain anniversary data; will I get an anniversary version or upgrade to anniversary win10 after 08/02/2016?  I hope these questions make sense to you guys because it is still a little fuzzy for me to figure out.  Thanks for your help.


Sincerely,


James Arthur Robinson, Sr., President
Jardata Corporation

 

 


Re: Where did my power button go?

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

I always use the old way. I go to the desktop or whatever, and I hit alt F4. Then, I get the same options of shutdown, sleep, we start at Cetera.

Ben

On Jul 31, 2016, at 17:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Guys, forgive me.  This probably would be better suited for the Insiders list, but I can't seem to post there.  Every time that I try, the message bounces.  Not sure why.  I've double checked, and I absolutely do have the correct address.
 
My question however is quite basic.  If anyone feels it would be in their best interest to respond off list, you're more than welcome to do so.  My e-mail is:
 
 
Anyway, here is the message I attempted to send.
 
Guys, obviously, I've been out of the loop for a while, dealing with some family personal issues and such.
 
Therefore, I confess, I'm a little bit behind on the insider stuff.  I'm in the fast ring, but I've not booted up this laptop which is in that fast ring in a while now.
 
Today, I just turned on the system, and wow!  Things look different than what I recall, but I can't quite place in what way.
 
The start menu looks a little different.  It used to be with JAWS 17, and with NVDA both, I could hit the windows key, bring the start window up, up arrow once to all programs, then up arrow one more time and I'd land on the power button.  Pressing it would take me to the context menu where I could then choose restart, shutdown, etc.
 
Now, when I up arrow once, I still see all programs, but if I up arrow again, I can't totally tell where exactly it's going.  It definitely isn't taking me to the power button anymore though.  So, the million dollar question:  where the heck diddit go>
 
Chris.


Re: Anniversary Media Creation Tool

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Anyway, let's not keep feeding the fire.  It was rude, yes, but life goes on.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool

BUT REALLY THE list moderator/S CAN BE AS NASTY OR AS NICE AS THEY PLEASE!
WHAT A DOUBLE STANDARD!
 
From: mk360
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool
 
I agree. that was unnecesary.

Regards,
mk.

El 31/07/2016 a las 19:16, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribió:
Totally totally agree.  That was really unpolite!
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool
 
I'm sure there could've been a nicer, less snarky, sarcastic way of saying that.
 
 
Thanks,
Ari

On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:

Its plain for all to see that you can't read e-mail as this question has been addressed not only by list members but by a healthful article on the subject sent to the list a couple of days ago.

 

 


On 1/08/2016 2:18 AM, James Robinson wrote:
Hello list!
 
After the anniversary version comes out, will there be a place to get a new media creation tool that we can put on a thumb drive/CD/DVD to upgrade win7/81 machines to Win10?  Is the file I recently downloaded for continued upgrade possibility from the new microsoft win10 site for upgrade to current win10 or does it contain anniversary data; will I get an anniversary version or upgrade to anniversary win10 after 08/02/2016?  I hope these questions make sense to you guys because it is still a little fuzzy for me to figure out.  Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,


James Arthur Robinson, Sr., President
Jardata Corporation



Where did my power button go?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Guys, forgive me.  This probably would be better suited for the Insiders list, but I can't seem to post there.  Every time that I try, the message bounces.  Not sure why.  I've double checked, and I absolutely do have the correct address.
 
My question however is quite basic.  If anyone feels it would be in their best interest to respond off list, you're more than welcome to do so.  My e-mail is:
 
 
Anyway, here is the message I attempted to send.
 
Guys, obviously, I've been out of the loop for a while, dealing with some family personal issues and such.
 
Therefore, I confess, I'm a little bit behind on the insider stuff.  I'm in the fast ring, but I've not booted up this laptop which is in that fast ring in a while now.
 
Today, I just turned on the system, and wow!  Things look different than what I recall, but I can't quite place in what way.
 
The start menu looks a little different.  It used to be with JAWS 17, and with NVDA both, I could hit the windows key, bring the start window up, up arrow once to all programs, then up arrow one more time and I'd land on the power button.  Pressing it would take me to the context menu where I could then choose restart, shutdown, etc.
 
Now, when I up arrow once, I still see all programs, but if I up arrow again, I can't totally tell where exactly it's going.  It definitely isn't taking me to the power button anymore though.  So, the million dollar question:  where the heck diddit go>
 
Chris.


Re: Anniversary Media Creation Tool

Kevin
 

BUT REALLY THE list moderator/S CAN BE AS NASTY OR AS NICE AS THEY PLEASE!
WHAT A DOUBLE STANDARD!
 

From: mk360
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool
 
I agree. that was unnecesary.

Regards,
mk.

El 31/07/2016 a las 19:16, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribió:
Totally totally agree.  That was really unpolite!
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool
 
I'm sure there could've been a nicer, less snarky, sarcastic way of saying that.
 
 
Thanks,
Ari

On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:

Its plain for all to see that you can't read e-mail as this question has been addressed not only by list members but by a healthful article on the subject sent to the list a couple of days ago.

 

 


On 1/08/2016 2:18 AM, James Robinson wrote:
Hello list!
 
After the anniversary version comes out, will there be a place to get a new media creation tool that we can put on a thumb drive/CD/DVD to upgrade win7/81 machines to Win10?  Is the file I recently downloaded for continued upgrade possibility from the new microsoft win10 site for upgrade to current win10 or does it contain anniversary data; will I get an anniversary version or upgrade to anniversary win10 after 08/02/2016?  I hope these questions make sense to you guys because it is still a little fuzzy for me to figure out.  Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,


James Arthur Robinson, Sr., President
Jardata Corporation



Re: Anniversary Media Creation Tool

mk360
 

I agree. that was unnecesary.

Regards,
mk.

El 31/07/2016 a las 19:16, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribió:
Totally totally agree.  That was really unpolite!
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool

I'm sure there could've been a nicer, less snarky, sarcastic way of saying that.


Thanks,
Ari

On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:

Its plain for all to see that you can't read e-mail as this question has been addressed not only by list members but by a healthful article on the subject sent to the list a couple of days ago.




On 1/08/2016 2:18 AM, James Robinson wrote:
Hello list!
 
After the anniversary version comes out, will there be a place to get a new media creation tool that we can put on a thumb drive/CD/DVD to upgrade win7/81 machines to Win10?  Is the file I recently downloaded for continued upgrade possibility from the new microsoft win10 site for upgrade to current win10 or does it contain anniversary data; will I get an anniversary version or upgrade to anniversary win10 after 08/02/2016?  I hope these questions make sense to you guys because it is still a little fuzzy for me to figure out.  Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,


James Arthur Robinson, Sr., President
Jardata Corporation



Re: download manager?

Cornelius
 

I am using IDM since Windows XP til now. Tell me which part is not accessible?

-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Inglis
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 4:09 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] download manager?

hi guys, COULD SOMEONE PLEASE RECOMMEND AN ACCESSIBLE FILE DOWNLOAD
MANAGER. wAS USING idm FOR A WHILE, BUT LOOKING FOR SOMETHING NEW AND
MORE ACCESSIBLE, bILLY


Airfoil For Windows

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Hi!


I reinstalled Windows 10 onto my system, I've been using Windows 10 for 12 months, was having problems that were getting too difficult to fix easily so decided to completely reinstall which wasn't a difficult task in itself.


So now I have Windows 10 up and running again so now to the annoying bit, reinstalling all that software.


I won't be reinstalling iTunes and that's not because of iTunes itself which is a nice piece of software but I myself have no need for iTunes these days, more important in the audio side of things was the VLC Media Player and - given I do a lot of streaming - the excellent Airfoil for Windows App.


If you have some Bluetooth or AirPlay device about and you wish to stream to them then Airfoil is truly a most useful tool you should consider and I did say Bluetooth devices so I'll talk about the shortly.


The accessibility of Airfoil has come quite a long way since I started using the Windows version, you can use the tab key to move between the various panels of the software, for example each AirPlay device will have its own panel where you can turn transmission of a stream on and off, adjust the volume of the output and so on. The buttons aren't labeled but they'ear easy enough to work out.


The bigger problem is entering one's licence key, it can be done but you'll most likely need to use the JAWS Cursor or WE Cursor to find where the information should be entered.


So what can you stream using Airfoil? Pretty much anything that exists on your computer, capture an Applications audio for example or capture the output of a sound device or TV Tuner.


So now to Bluetooth and the ability to handle Bluetooth is a recent addition to the capabilities of Airfoil



If you have a computer which is capable of streaming to Bluetooth devices you can pair your devices and have Airfoil transmit to them independent of your computers speech and other sound.


You can also define "Groups", you might like to put say two different devices into a group and transmit straight to the group rather than connect each device independently, saves a lot of time.


Re: Anniversary Media Creation Tool

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Totally totally agree.  That was really unpolite!
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [win10] Anniversary Media Creation Tool

I'm sure there could've been a nicer, less snarky, sarcastic way of saying that.


Thanks,
Ari

On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:

Its plain for all to see that you can't read e-mail as this question has been addressed not only by list members but by a healthful article on the subject sent to the list a couple of days ago.




On 1/08/2016 2:18 AM, James Robinson wrote:
Hello list!
 
After the anniversary version comes out, will there be a place to get a new media creation tool that we can put on a thumb drive/CD/DVD to upgrade win7/81 machines to Win10?  Is the file I recently downloaded for continued upgrade possibility from the new microsoft win10 site for upgrade to current win10 or does it contain anniversary data; will I get an anniversary version or upgrade to anniversary win10 after 08/02/2016?  I hope these questions make sense to you guys because it is still a little fuzzy for me to figure out.  Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,


James Arthur Robinson, Sr., President
Jardata Corporation


Does MS have a cow on your PC?

Lino Morales
 

Hey all. Does MS have a cow with your account on your PC? I've been using a local account and for some oddball reason I couldn't signed into the Microsoft store. I hit the sign button and said invalid entry after selecting my email address associated with my MS account. I decided to sign into my Microsoft account instead under accounts and now all is well. Only thing I was sign into under the local account with out any problem is Cortana. Just weird. I'm just going to stick to signing this way for now one.


Re: Setting a Desktop Shortcut or Program to Run in Compatibility Mode

Roger Stewart
 

Yes, CCleaner works just fine. However, Easy Cleaner will get some unnecessary files that CCleaner will miss. Gold wave works fine but I can't use CDex here. The thing will read the disc and even display the track and title list but then I get a silly message saying to please insert a disc and the thing ejects the disc. If I just put the same disc in the drive, I can play it fine with Winamp so the disc and drive are fine. I tried setting it in compatibility mode to Win 7 where I knew it always worked but I get the same results.

Roger

On 7/31/2016 4:26 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I am unsure about cdex.
However I brought goldwave for 40 bucks and it works with freecddb the tracks are not numbered but still it works.
ccleaner is win10 compatible though.



On 1/08/2016 6:55 a.m., Roger Stewart wrote:
I have 2 programs that used to work just fine on Win 7 but which won't
work at all, or are partially broken under Win 10. They are CDex and
Easy Cleaner. The latter program even brings up a notice from Win 10
that it isn't working properly and to try reinstalling it. I did this
and that didn't fix it.

Roger









On 7/31/2016 12:55 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Ari,

Don't be so sure that's the problem. I haven't yet had a
program that's as "new" as having been created during the Windows 7
era that does not run flawlessly under Windows 10 of its own accord.
I don't doubt there are some outliers, but if he's got a large number
that don't work I'd be far more inclined to check out other possible
issues first.

It certainly won't hurt to try compatibility mode, but my
gut is telling me this is not the underlying problem based on the
information you've offered.
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*/Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears
you out./*

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