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Re: re question about ms edge with screenreaders

 

Hi,

And NVDA (I might add).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lists
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:59 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] re question about ms edge with screenreaders

 

Edge is still not accessible with third party screen reading solutions apart from Narrator.

 

On 4/08/2016 5:22 PM, g melconian wrote:

Hello to the list, I was  just wondering how much improvement has ms given to ms edge as far as accessibility goes with access tech . What are the things that can now be performed with ms edge. Sorry, I have been a bit busy  so I am just wondering how Microsoft edge will bea a benefit for us. Does it support extensions at the moment,  does it support flash in which you don’t have to install it from adobe.   Also,  is there  a pdf plug in  that you can read  pdfs, and fill out forms in an accessible manner.  How  does one add favorites .  Can you ad favorites to the favorites bar as you could do with internet explorer. What are the advantages compared to chrome, firefox and internet explorer the three browsers that we have used for the past 15 or so years. I would just appreciate some  insight into what ms edge is all about.   How  it can help us out in the real world of being productive. 



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Re: Nvda not talking on uac screens latest version of window's10 and surface Pro.

 

Hi,
What is your UAC level set to? You need to set it to level 2 (67%) in order for this to work correctly.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 4:13 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Nvda not talking on uac screens latest version of window's10 and surface Pro.

Joseph, I am sorry to say that on another machine lenovo all in one
64bit latest version of windows10 Uac still does not talk. using the latest master taken from the info from about Nvda this is the version I am using NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA)
Version: master-13481,da3ed00c hope this helps.

On 03/08/2016 22:13, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:
well thanks I thought so but was not sure.

On 03/08/2016 22:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
They're on the 4th. Smile.
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To: <win10@win10.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 4:41 PM
Subject: [win10] Nvda not talking on uac screens latest version of
window's10 and surface Pro.


Hi all, I have the latest snapshot I have my computer set to log
into window's I hear the nvda voice saying sign in then log in but
when I hit a uac screen I don't now get any speech, using the very
latest window's10 update and surface pro4 I think I can't remember
if ms are now on the third gen or forth. anyway latest surface pro.






Re: booting directly to the desktop

 

Hi,

If you’ve set up no password for local account, you may want to leave password box blank.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:16 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] booting directly to the desktop

 

Ok, until this issue with no speech at log on screen is resolved, I want to revert back to automatically going directly to my desktop with no input from me. I used to have it that way

This is what I’ve done so far, but not been able to complete the task.

1.       I removed my 4 digit pin which put me back to needing to enter password.

2.       I entered the command netpliz and unchecked the box to need folks to enter a password.

3.       I tried to revert back to signing in with local account rather than a Microsoft one but here is where I’m having trouble. I go to settings, accounts, and click on sign in with a local account. It tells me my current Microsoft log in ID and asks for the password. I enter that and it takes me to a screen for local account credentials. My log in name is correct but then it asks for a password and then to confirm it. Prior to setting up a Microsoft sign in I did not use a password as I booted directly to the desktop. So, no matter what I put in these boxes, i.e. my current Microsoft password, my 4 digit pin, or nothing at all, I can’t get to the button to facilitate the switch. So, I still have to enter my password at boot up or to switch users. How can I get rid of all this?

Best,

Al


booting directly to the desktop

Alan Robbins
 

Ok, until this issue with no speech at log on screen is resolved, I want to revert back to automatically going directly to my desktop with no input from me. I used to have it that way

This is what I’ve done so far, but not been able to complete the task.

1.       I removed my 4 digit pin which put me back to needing to enter password.

2.       I entered the command netpliz and unchecked the box to need folks to enter a password.

3.       I tried to revert back to signing in with local account rather than a Microsoft one but here is where I’m having trouble. I go to settings, accounts, and click on sign in with a local account. It tells me my current Microsoft log in ID and asks for the password. I enter that and it takes me to a screen for local account credentials. My log in name is correct but then it asks for a password and then to confirm it. Prior to setting up a Microsoft sign in I did not use a password as I booted directly to the desktop. So, no matter what I put in these boxes, i.e. my current Microsoft password, my 4 digit pin, or nothing at all, I can’t get to the button to facilitate the switch. So, I still have to enter my password at boot up or to switch users. How can I get rid of all this?

Best,

Al


Re: Windows Experience blog: how to get Anniversary Update #WinTenOld

Alan Robbins
 

Vanna,

 

There has been such a myriad of experiences with this update, hard to say. If it were me, I’d contact MS accessibility to get their input prior to proceeding. Or, simply wait for windows to deliver it automatically through the update process.

 

Al

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanna Song
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:08 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Windows Experience blog: how to get Anniversary Update #WinTen1607

 

So I went to the support page, but got a .exe file instead of a.iso file. Am I safe to install, or do I need to do something to the .exe file before installing?


windows update

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi, says my windows update is up to date, so do I just wait for updates to come, the nightmares I had today, I tore my hair out and my sighted help today.

And had to call Microsoft.

Lost my audio, so, once bitten, twice shy, wait for that to download automatically,not messing around with that. Had to roll back to windows 7, and then rolled back to the current branch of windows 10.

Weird.


Re: auto Windows & log in screen

Alan Robbins
 

Ron,

 

If I remember correctly, you forced the update rather than wait for it automatically? I can’t recall if you used the MCT or simply went to the update area and checked for updates manually?

On another note, does your machine read the log in screen when it appears?

 

Al

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:47 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] auto Windows & log in screen

 

Hello to you Allan from Ron Kolesar.

No problems with the install.

But I still don’t hear any windows start up and or shut down sounds.

I thought that was one of the items that was suppose to be fixed?

From a blind person’s point of view, since we have to see through our ears, it sure would be nice to have that audio confirmation once again like we did when we were running windows 7.

Just my opinion thus far.

Hope the feedback will be of some help.

Ron

 

From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 8:28 PM

Subject: [win10] auto Windows & log in screen

 

For those that received the anniversary update, 1607, automatically through windows, did you have any difficulty with the initial log in screen and or sound following the last auto restart by windows?

 

Al

 

Al


Re: auto Windows & log in screen

Alan Robbins
 

Hmmm.. If this is consistent with all installs, I think I’ll go back to simply going directly to the desktop and bypass the log in until fixed. Depending on what is going on with one’s machine, how do you even know you are at the log it? For instance, if windows is working on updates or if chkdsk is running, one would have no idea when the log in screen pops up. Granted, on a  routine boot, one gets to know their machine and when that screen would appear. Anxious to hear from others

 

Al

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of g melconian
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:07 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] auto Windows & log in screen

 

Actually have issues with login using jaws 17 .  I have to hit escape then be able to  be placed into the log in screen. This is   when I did both through windows update on one machine and on the other I used the media creation tool . 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 5:29 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] auto Windows & log in screen

 

For those that received the anniversary update, 1607, automatically through windows, did you have any difficulty with the initial log in screen and or sound following the last auto restart by windows?

 

Al

 

Al


annivesary update

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi, was not seeing this on windows updates, so downloaded the mct.exe, but when I updated, lost all my audio, had to roll back to windows 7, with my mums help, and then still got win 10.

So a bit gun shy, and will just wait for the official download to download automatically on to my system, not doing this any more, will just be mindful and stick with what I have, or else I am on my own next time this happens, did select keep apps and personal files, not sure what happened.


Re: Nvda not talking on uac screens latest version of window's10 and surface Pro.

Kevin Cussick
 

Joseph, I am sorry to say that on another machine lenovo all in one 64bit latest version of windows10 Uac still does not talk. using the latest master taken from the info from about Nvda this is the version I am using NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA)
Version: master-13481,da3ed00c hope this helps.

On 03/08/2016 22:13, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:
well thanks I thought so but was not sure.

On 03/08/2016 22:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
They're on the 4th. Smile.
---
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JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.io"
<the.big.white.shepherd@...>
To: <win10@win10.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 4:41 PM
Subject: [win10] Nvda not talking on uac screens latest version of
window's10 and surface Pro.


Hi all, I have the latest snapshot I have my computer set to log
into window's I hear the nvda voice saying sign in then log in but
when I hit a uac screen I don't now get any speech, using the very
latest window's10 update and surface pro4 I think I can't remember if
ms are now on the third gen or forth. anyway latest surface pro.





Re: Windows 10 1607 TH1 official ISO (direct download link)

 

yes you wont get the error

On 8/4/16, John Lee <pcguruuu@...> wrote:
When you extract, you do not gethat the video effror, with JAWS, WindowEyes
and Zoomtext installed.

On Aug 4, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...>
wrote:

you can download it extract it to a folder and run setup.exe to upgrade.
but you cant download the iso you get error 403

On 8/4/16, Tom <tomcat509@...> wrote:
Hi,

Not having any experience with an ISO file, could someone please
enlighten
me on the following:

?
If I download it, can it be run to install the update or does it have to
go
through some sort of conversion first. i.e. burned to a DDV first.

Thanks
Tom




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Re: Important: Anniversary Update advisory on display compatibility flag: Microsoft is aware of this issue #WinTenOld

RJ Sandefur <manbatsandefur@...>
 

Yes, I'm having the same issue. I am very disappointed with microsoft and VFO for this stupid blunder! RJ


On 8/4/2016 1:56 AM, g melconian wrote:

Joseph, what about the log in issue. I notice with windows 10 anniversary   1607 build,  when starting up the pc, the log in  prompt will not speak with jaws , the work around that i have decided to use which I think this is a bug is to hit space bar to land on the log  in prompt in order to enter my pin or password. This was not present in the 1511  build but is now present as a bug from the point of accessibility on 1607 build. Can this be discussed with Kelly ford and be resolved for a cumulative patch update. I would truly appreciate if it could be looked into. As none of the three screenreaders  JAWS, NVDA, and window eyes, are  announcing the  log in screen. The work around is either to hit space  bar to bring up the log in prompt or hit escape to be placed into the log in box to enter in pin or pass word.  Plese this is an extra step for us blind users. I am just wondering, if any of  these  sort of issues tested before it went out the door. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 9:38 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Important: Anniversary Update advisory on display compatibility flag: Microsoft is aware of this issue #WinTen1607

 

Hi everyone,

 

According to Kelly Ford (senior program manager at Microsoft), Microsoft is aware of the following issue:

 

When you run Media Creation Tool (MCT) in order to upgrade to Anniversary Update, due to presence of some screen reader components (specifically, a display driver), MCT will raise display compatibility flag. This was observed on JAWS for Windows, Window-Eyes and Zoom Text. The workaround is to remove these display drivers and running MCT (end result not fully verified), or wait for Version 1607 to show up on Windows Update.

 

Freedom Scientific was notified of this issue. Information in this advisory may change once updated information becomes available.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph



Re: Important: Anniversary Update advisory on display compatibility flag: Microsoft is aware of this issue #WinTenOld

John Lee
 

You can doynload the disiso file, create a folder and run setup.exe and you do not get the video display error with JAWS, WindowEyes and Zoomtext installed. 

On Aug 4, 2016, at 12:37 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

According to Kelly Ford (senior program manager at Microsoft), Microsoft is aware of the following issue:

 

When you run Media Creation Tool (MCT) in order to upgrade to Anniversary Update, due to presence of some screen reader components (specifically, a display driver), MCT will raise display compatibility flag. This was observed on JAWS for Windows, Window-Eyes and Zoom Text. The workaround is to remove these display drivers and running MCT (end result not fully verified), or wait for Version 1607 to show up on Windows Update.

 

Freedom Scientific was notified of this issue. Information in this advisory may change once updated information becomes available.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Windows 10 1607 TH1 official ISO (direct download link)

John Lee
 

When you extract, you do not gethat the video effror, with JAWS, WindowEyes and Zoomtext installed.

On Aug 4, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...> wrote:

you can download it extract it to a folder and run setup.exe to upgrade.
but you cant download the iso you get error 403

On 8/4/16, Tom <tomcat509@...> wrote:
Hi,

Not having any experience with an ISO file, could someone please enlighten
me on the following:

?
If I download it, can it be run to install the update or does it have to go
through some sort of conversion first. i.e. burned to a DDV first.

Thanks
Tom




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Re: re question about ms edge with screenreaders

Sadam Ahmed
 

Edge is still not accessible with third party screen reading solutions apart from Narrator.


On 4/08/2016 5:22 PM, g melconian wrote:

Hello to the list, I was  just wondering how much improvement has ms given to ms edge as far as accessibility goes with access tech . What are the things that can now be performed with ms edge. Sorry, I have been a bit busy  so I am just wondering how Microsoft edge will bea a benefit for us. Does it support extensions at the moment,  does it support flash in which you don’t have to install it from adobe.   Also,  is there  a pdf plug in  that you can read  pdfs, and fill out forms in an accessible manner.  How  does one add favorites .  Can you ad favorites to the favorites bar as you could do with internet explorer. What are the advantages compared to chrome, firefox and internet explorer the three browsers that we have used for the past 15 or so years. I would just appreciate some  insight into what ms edge is all about.   How  it can help us out in the real world of being productive. 


Yours sincerely,  

Sadam 
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Vocational education student 

Certificate IV in International Trade 

College of Business 

RMIT University 


Question

 

Hello!
I'd like to know, when this Windows 10 Update will come into Windows
stable Updates (if you know)?
Thank you!
Sincerely,
Paulius Leveris


re question about ms edge with screenreaders

g melconian
 

Hello to the list, I was  just wondering how much improvement has ms given to ms edge as far as accessibility goes with access tech . What are the things that can now be performed with ms edge. Sorry, I have been a bit busy  so I am just wondering how Microsoft edge will bea a benefit for us. Does it support extensions at the moment,  does it support flash in which you don’t have to install it from adobe.   Also,  is there  a pdf plug in  that you can read  pdfs, and fill out forms in an accessible manner.  How  does one add favorites .  Can you ad favorites to the favorites bar as you could do with internet explorer. What are the advantages compared to chrome, firefox and internet explorer the three browsers that we have used for the past 15 or so years. I would just appreciate some  insight into what ms edge is all about.   How  it can help us out in the real world of being productive. 


Re: fast startup?

Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) <steven.hicks@...>
 

You could try changing the power options for when I shut the lid, do nothing maybe?

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amy Gordon
Sent: 03 August 2016 15:35
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] fast startup?

When I shut my laptop and leave it for a while and come back to it, it doesn't want to wake up sometimes. I come back to computer on when I open it but no speech. Is there an option I might should change to help this? Thanks

On 8/3/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
When you activate the "Change Settings that are currently unavailable"
link there should always be four checkboxes, in this order, that
become available in the dialog previously mentioned:
Turn on Fast startup (recommended)
Sleep
Hibernate
Lock

None is dependent on another being checked in order to be presented.

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Re: Important: Anniversary Update advisory on display compatibility flag: Microsoft is aware of this issue #WinTenOld

Heather Albright <kd5cbl@...>
 

Can you still have windows ten log in automatically where by you do not have to put the user name and password! Thanks, Heather

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [win10] Important: Anniversary Update advisory on display compatibility flag: Microsoft is aware of this issue #WinTen1607

Joseph, what about the log in issue. I notice with windows 10 anniversary   1607 build,  when starting up the pc, the log in  prompt will not speak with jaws , the work around that i have decided to use which I think this is a bug is to hit space bar to land on the log  in prompt in order to enter my pin or password. This was not present in the 1511  build but is now present as a bug from the point of accessibility on 1607 build. Can this be discussed with Kelly ford and be resolved for a cumulative patch update. I would truly appreciate if it could be looked into. As none of the three screenreaders  JAWS, NVDA, and window eyes, are  announcing the  log in screen. The work around is either to hit space  bar to bring up the log in prompt or hit escape to be placed into the log in box to enter in pin or pass word.  Plese this is an extra step for us blind users. I am just wondering, if any of  these  sort of issues tested before it went out the door. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 9:38 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Important: Anniversary Update advisory on display compatibility flag: Microsoft is aware of this issue #WinTen1607

 

Hi everyone,

 

According to Kelly Ford (senior program manager at Microsoft), Microsoft is aware of the following issue:

 

When you run Media Creation Tool (MCT) in order to upgrade to Anniversary Update, due to presence of some screen reader components (specifically, a display driver), MCT will raise display compatibility flag. This was observed on JAWS for Windows, Window-Eyes and Zoom Text. The workaround is to remove these display drivers and running MCT (end result not fully verified), or wait for Version 1607 to show up on Windows Update.

 

Freedom Scientific was notified of this issue. Information in this advisory may change once updated information becomes available.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Important: Anniversary Update advisory on display compatibility flag: Microsoft is aware of this issue #WinTenOld

g melconian
 

Joseph, what about the log in issue. I notice with windows 10 anniversary   1607 build,  when starting up the pc, the log in  prompt will not speak with jaws , the work around that i have decided to use which I think this is a bug is to hit space bar to land on the log  in prompt in order to enter my pin or password. This was not present in the 1511  build but is now present as a bug from the point of accessibility on 1607 build. Can this be discussed with Kelly ford and be resolved for a cumulative patch update. I would truly appreciate if it could be looked into. As none of the three screenreaders  JAWS, NVDA, and window eyes, are  announcing the  log in screen. The work around is either to hit space  bar to bring up the log in prompt or hit escape to be placed into the log in box to enter in pin or pass word.  Plese this is an extra step for us blind users. I am just wondering, if any of  these  sort of issues tested before it went out the door. 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 9:38 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Important: Anniversary Update advisory on display compatibility flag: Microsoft is aware of this issue #WinTen1607

 

Hi everyone,

 

According to Kelly Ford (senior program manager at Microsoft), Microsoft is aware of the following issue:

 

When you run Media Creation Tool (MCT) in order to upgrade to Anniversary Update, due to presence of some screen reader components (specifically, a display driver), MCT will raise display compatibility flag. This was observed on JAWS for Windows, Window-Eyes and Zoom Text. The workaround is to remove these display drivers and running MCT (end result not fully verified), or wait for Version 1607 to show up on Windows Update.

 

Freedom Scientific was notified of this issue. Information in this advisory may change once updated information becomes available.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph